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Old November 7th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #41

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На вкус и цвет товарищей нет, you know..

(translation kinda) Beauty is in eye of the beholder..
No the correct verbiage in the original Texan is "beauty is in the eye of the beerholder."
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Old November 7th, 2017, 09:50 AM   #42

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Ah right, well congratulations to the army of Mother Russia winning such a glorious victory in that war
accepted... though not so glorious, however it was a very smart move from the tsar, and shame on the traitors who dethroned him before the final victory.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 09:50 AM   #43

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One thing I have always found as disturbing as fascinating is how much Stalin effectively helped the USSR win the WWII both before and during the war.
The point is, Stalin's successes came at a huge cost (both social, cultural and human), yet it's doubtful whether any other nation than USSR (under the iron grip of Stalin) could have survived the terrible onslaught of 1941.
A few key points:
1) The USSR became an industrial world power within a few years which is, in spite of its terrible cost, a remarkable success.
2) While it's true that Stalin's whereabouts during the first weeks of Barbarossa (or days?) were a mystery, it's also true that then he contributed a lot to the war effort (especially in devising the post-war asset).

So, in short, to what extent was Stalin instrumental to Russian victory in WWII and, linking to the topic, how well could have endured a Russian "democracy" in 1941?
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Old November 7th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #44

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because Russia was actively entering the world market. Europe wanted to prevent this. America was on the rise at the moment, so they sent raiders to Russia in order to cripple her abilities to compete.
Wait what? That doesn't make sense. The Russian people rose up and overthrew the Czar and Boyars because Europe sent raiders to Russia?

Where did you get this information from, being that it conflicts with the views of the Russians themselves.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 09:52 AM   #45

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One thing I have always found as disturbing as fascinating is how much Stalin effectively helped the USSR win the WWII both before and during the war.
The point is, Stalin's successes came at a huge cost (both social, cultural and human), yet it's doubtful whether any other nation than USSR (under the iron grip of Stalin) could have survived the terrible onslaught of 1941.
A few key points:
1) The USSR became an industrial world power within a few years which is, in spite of its terrible cost, a remarkable success.
2) While it's true that Stalin's whereabouts during the first weeks of Barbarossa (or days?) were a mystery, it's also true that then he contributed a lot to the war effort (especially in devising the post-war asset).

So, in short, to what extent was Stalin instrumental to Russian victory in WWII and, linking to the topic, how well could have endured a Russian "democracy" in 1941?
What if there were no purges of the military in the 30s, eliminating the USSR's operational officer corps?
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Old November 7th, 2017, 10:09 AM   #46

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The Russian people rose up and overthrew the Czar and Boyars because Europe sent raiders to Russia?
what Russian people? Russians would never want something of the sort occur in their country... not like they cared about the tsar or his courtiers (what boyars?) but neither they cared about the raiders' ambitions to incite unrest in Russia.

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Where did you get this information from, being that it conflicts with the views of the Russians themselves.
which views? Russians' as of before or after the USSR was created?
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Old November 7th, 2017, 10:20 AM   #47

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those behind the raids they call 'revolutions' have of course created a myth, through enormous amount of propaganda, that revolutions are made by people; but it's a lie.

a revolution is merely another form of a invasion, conducted through agents using pre-indoctrinated ideas in order to cover up the robbery.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 10:42 AM   #48

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how can you say this about someone you didn't know in person? ).
If we all subscribed to this view, there would be no more history and no more biography. What precludes us from drawing our conclusions about a person from the written record, no matter how long ago he or she lived?
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Old November 7th, 2017, 11:18 AM   #49

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that of international powers, say, Lenin was a German agent, Trotsky was America's etc.
Finally something of yours in this thread I can agree with, Sharik: Lenin was a Germany agent.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 11:50 AM   #50
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O, no! She may be an Orthodox idiot but she's cute! I wish to be an icon she kisses good night!
It took me time to understand what you mean

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Не хватает икон Николая, нужно больше икон Николая.

There are not enough icons of St. Nicholas II, we need more St. Nicholas II icons
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