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Old November 19th, 2017, 09:47 PM   #1
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Nazi Germany and imperial Japan as other nations had the ideology of the "pure race." Nazi Germany with the Aryan white race and imperial Japan with pure (Asian) yellow, both as an example, dealt with the idea that a race was pure without miscegention .
I would like to know if there is any real or fictional ideology that determines that "the true race" is only achieved through the misigena- tion of the three races (Asian, white and black) or the union of two races
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Old November 19th, 2017, 10:44 PM   #2
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http://www.nature.com/articles/513306a

This article does not support the idea of pure race. However it discounts the idea that race does not exist, an idea that has gained some acceptance in recent years. Humans are one species. Racial differences develop with relative geographic isolation. It remains a touchy subject which clouds good scientific appraisal.

A "pure" race would have had to develop in a condition of geographic isolation of an interbreeding species. Modern humans clearly have distributed widely for over the past 100,000 years from the time they migrated from southern Africa. It may be that all modern humans once looked like the current native populations in southern Africa.

I don't know how you mix widely dispersed humans to blend all races back into a "pure"race. At least it would take a long time.

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Old November 20th, 2017, 01:36 PM   #3

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Nazi Germany and imperial Japan as other nations had the ideology of the "pure race." Nazi Germany with the Aryan white race and imperial Japan with pure (Asian) yellow, both as an example, dealt with the idea that a race was pure without miscegention .
I would like to know if there is any real or fictional ideology that determines that "the true race" is only achieved through the misigena- tion of the three races (Asian, white and black) or the union of two races
José Vasconcelos - La Raza Cósmica

I haven't read the book, but there is a review on amazon that suggests that it might not be what it has been portrayed as being in some other sources:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-r...SIN=0801856558

But if he was actually advocating for what some other sources characterize him as advocating for, then he was probably the only person to come up with this concept.
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Nazi Germany and imperial Japan as other nations had the ideology of the "pure race." Nazi Germany with the Aryan white race and imperial Japan with pure (Asian) yellow, both as an example, dealt with the idea that a race was pure without miscegention .
I would like to know if there is any real or fictional ideology that determines that "the true race" is only achieved through the misigena- tion of the three races (Asian, white and black) or the union of two races
Theoretically Christianity and Islam sustain this ... but ignoring races.

but Christianity and Islam as well run slaves trade from Africa.
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Old November 20th, 2017, 02:54 PM   #5

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The Mediterranean Sea connects the continents of, Africa, Asia, and Europe.

And so, it's like what the man said(in a slightly different regard),

"The progress of knowledge and industry is accelerated by the emulation of so many active rivals".
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Old November 21st, 2017, 07:45 AM   #6
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We are all one race... any other discussion by definition is repugnant and borders on discussion of genetics which is not allowed on this forum. The only difference is that evolution by its nature has created traits in skin colour and other features that are best suited for living in a particular region.

To define humans by race is utterly ridiculous and in a modern sense mostly an American anachronism from racial profiling drawn back to Galton's social Darwinism. To which I say, any learned scientist worth their academic qualifications will tell you it is utter nonsense of the highest order.

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Nazi Germany and imperial Japan as other nations had the ideology of the "pure race." Nazi Germany with the Aryan white race and imperial Japan with pure (Asian) yellow, both as an example, dealt with the idea that a race was pure without miscegention .
I would like to know if there is any real or fictional ideology that determines that "the true race" is only achieved through the misigena- tion of the three races (Asian, white and black) or the union of two races
"White", "black" and "yellow" races? Which century are we living in?
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"White", "black" and "yellow" races? Which century are we living in?
I'm not sure how this topic is still living on this forum. It invites hate ridden discussions and those other discussions of pseudo-genetics.
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Well, the OP is asking about an ideology. I have no idea if he or she subscribes to this view of the "races".
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Old November 21st, 2017, 09:42 PM   #10

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People should stay in their own traditional zones and develop their own culture. There should be some cross cultural zones like North America and some already mixed parts where of different races and cultures can mingle freely. These are places where the original population have been replaced.

But traditional cultures should stay as they are. The rich countries should help the development of the less fortunate countries. Yes, it is in everyone interest. Emphasis should be put on the environment and space exploration. Space exploration will open the world to an infinite amount of resources; this should stabilize mankind.

I agree with migration control. It's actually not fair for underdeveloped countries to lose their talents to rich countries and at the same time it is not fair to the average people of developed countries to have their society disturbed by less educated elements.

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