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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:44 AM   #41

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Christopher Columbus? What did he ever do?
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:48 AM   #42
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Christopher Columbus? What did he ever do?
I think he took a most fortuitous wrong-turn somewhere.
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To a continent that was already well-known
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:51 AM   #44
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Not really, please do not forget that world history means ONLY the stuff written from the point of view of 'The West'.

How dare you!
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Old March 16th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #45

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Mayhaps he could include only so many philosophers?As for Marx and Machiavelli,I agree.Mao,not so much.
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One of the most sold books in history, has been 'Quotations from Chairman Mao'. How can you say that therefore, he wasn't one of the most influential people in history? He should DEFINITELY be higher than he is on the rankings.
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Dunno about the worth of 'most sold' things. Mao deserves to be somewhere at the top of such lists due to his major effect on geo-political arrangements and other important sounding things. But if the number of copies sold is anything to go by then I WANT TO SEE MR.MICHAEL JACKSON RIGHT AT THE TOP!!!
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No doubt it cannot be easy to create such list
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All important changes for nations and countries in last 2000 years were done in the name of Christ so for god sake why is he third and why is Newton before him???
I dont trust that billions of people spelling name of Newton several times every day....
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All important changes for nations and countries in last 2000 years were done in the name of Christ so for god sake why is he third and why is Newton before him???
I dont trust that billions of people spelling name of Newton several times every day....
Oh my Newton! Jesus Newton! In the name of Newton! The power of Newton compels you...

I certainly made up for that...
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Old March 16th, 2011, 04:08 PM   #49

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33.Alexander the Great

Only in the 33rd place? Considering that he was the man that enabled western civilization to spread outside it's greek cradle. And the world of today is the product of western civilization. Therefore, he was the ultimate maker of the modern world.

My list of the most important individuals in history:

1 - Alexander the Great
Enabled western civilization to spread outside little greece. Without him maybe today we would still living in agricultural villages and residing in huts.

2 - Caesar
The most important individual in the process of transforming the republic into the Empire. Unified the ancient mediterranean. The unification of the ancient mediterranean in turn ceased competition between states and this process resulted in the economic/social and military collapse of classical civilization. The world would take a 15 century detour until Europe got it right in the early modern period. So Caesar perhaps created a 1,500 year discontinuity in western civilization, stopping the engine of economic and technological development for a very long time. He is one of the fathers of the middle ages, Augustus also classifies here, but Caesar was more important than him in ending the republic and turning the mediterranean into the roman lake.

3 - Scipio Africanus
Defeated Hannibal and Antiochus, enabling Rome to conquer the mediterranean and hence, all western civilization.

*The rest didn't matter much because during all the rest of time history marched forward and we had economic and technological development. We had many wars, many different empires, and many religions, but none had the impact of these 3 men because the march of history, started by Alexander and set into sleep mode for a thousand years by Caesar, continued forward.

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Old March 16th, 2011, 04:14 PM   #50
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And the world today is the product of western civilization. Therefore, he was the maker of the modern world.
HUH!???!!!

God! Please stop trying to project poor Alex immediately! With friends such as you, does he need enemies???

I am in shock (though thankfully not speechless)!!!
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