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Chaim · November 2nd, 2011, 03:07 PM

The Persian War!
I thought it was pretty funny how Persians have lost so many times, yet they kept on trying.
It proves how tough Greece is.
With Athens and Sparta working together, ultimate navy army and brave warriors.

Faulks · November 2nd, 2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ghoul31

The problem with that is that the US invented the A-bomb in 1945. So they still would have been able to defeat Germany.

Well actually the US received a fair amount of foreign help during the Manhattan project, the invention of the bomb may have been quite delayed without the help of Nazi physicists (they also greatly aided in the space race).

Now for the thread, ah i would like to think that the revolt of Ionia was a significant battle in history, because of the Athenian and Eretrian help, the Persians planned to invade Athens and Eretria for retribution, this lead to the destruction of Athens and out of the ashes the formulating of Democracy.

sylla1 · November 2nd, 2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Heidi XX

The battle that gets my interests is that battle that the English finally pushed the Romans out of England,after beening conqued for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Richard Stanbery

Well, I dont think that the Britons ever did push the Romans out of England, they just left on thier own. In fact, I suspect that the Britons hated to see the Romans go, for it was the end of good old Roman law and order...and protection from the barbarians. In short, I think that for most of the Romanized Britons, seeing the last of the Roman troops leave Britain was like seeing the end of the world. It was scarry!

Actually, the Romans evacuated the island on their own, mostly due to their problems in the Continent.

sylla1 · November 3rd, 2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaim

The Persian War!
I thought it was pretty funny how Persians have lost so many times, yet they kept on trying.
It proves how tough Greece is.
With Athens and Sparta working together, ultimate navy army and brave warriors.

Actually, at least from the Peace of Antalcidas (if not since the Dekelean War) up to the Makedonian conquest, the Persians (more specifically the western satraps) succeeded in the control of the global politics of Hellas.

sylla1 · November 3rd, 2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Omnia illustrantur

The Spartan's brave stand at Thermopylae. If it weren't for that the Greeks would have fallen to Persian and the likes of Alexander the Great would have never existed...then who knows what would've happened.

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Originally Posted by EpicHistory360

THANK YOU. Yes, if Greece lost this battle Persia would've most likely spread and become the basis for Western European culture, who knows what the world would be like today? Instead, Greece stood firm, Rome adopted much of its culture, and the rest is history. I've mentioned this battle in like 5 posts but I just think its really underrated that is all.

Actually, our OL is right; nobody knows; it's just speculation.

And as speculation goes, judging from the historical flourishing of the Hellenic culture under the Persian rule (e.g. Ionia, Karia, Cyprus & Kyrenaika) probably not that much.

laketahoejwb · November 3rd, 2011, 11:11 AM

The Battle of Vienna 1683. Siege of Vienna 1529
Europe and the Americas may well have been Turkish now had the Attoman's prevailed. Our thanks goes out to the Polish heroes who turned disaster into victory!

The battle marked the turning point in the 300-year struggle between the forces of the Central European kingdoms and the Ottoman Empire. Over the sixteen years following the battle, the Habsburgs of Austria gradually occupied and dominated southern Hungary and Transylvania, which had been largely cleared of the Turkish forces.

King John III Sobieski of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had been made Commander in Chief of his own 30,000-man Polish forces (Lithuanians did not take part in the battle),
18,500 Austrian troops led by Charles V, Duke of Lorraine,
19,000 Franconian, Swabian and Bavarian troops led by Prince Georg Friedrich of Waldeck,
9,000 Saxon troops led by John George III, Elector of Saxony.

Battle of Vienna 1683 Ottoman Kara Mustafa Pasha Starhemberg Turkish army Leopold I King Sobieski

Siege of Vienna 1529 http://www.wien-vienna.com/index.php?ID=1841

**antonina** · November 3rd, 2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by laketahoejwb

The Battle of Vienna 1683. Europe and the Americas may well have been Turkish now had the Attoman's prevailed. Our thanks goes out to the Polish heroes who turned disaster into victory!

The battle marked the turning point in the 300-year struggle between the forces of the Central European kingdoms and the Ottoman Empire. Over the sixteen years following the battle, the Habsburgs of Austria gradually occupied and dominated southern Hungary and Transylvania, which had been largely cleared of the Turkish forces.

King John III Sobieski of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had been made Commander in Chief of his own 30,000-man Polish forces (Lithuanians did not take part in the battle),
18,500 Austrian troops led by Charles V, Duke of Lorraine,
19,000 Franconian, Swabian and Bavarian troops led by Prince Georg Friedrich of Waldeck,
9,000 Saxon troops led by John George III, Elector of Saxony.

Battle of Vienna 1683 Ottoman Kara Mustafa Pasha Starhemberg Turkish army Leopold I King Sobieski

Yes indeed, our king Jan Sobieski was a brilliant military commander.
He also wrote delightful love letters to his wife from the camp and the battlefield (great reading!).

Poly · November 3rd, 2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Yes you are correct in fact a book that I read, its called "50 most important battles" the author stressed that battle, because it was the first major defeat for the Axis.

He didn't count operation Typhoon? Moscow 1941?