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Old August 1st, 2011, 02:10 AM   #1

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Why did most of the Nazis flee to South America?


Most of them did. But why south America?
Why not Africa or Mexico...or somewhere else.

Why did they choose south America (argentina specifically)?
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Old August 1st, 2011, 02:15 AM   #2

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South America offered them the good life with no chance of expedition back to any of the Western countries.
They also employed them and used their 'techniques'.
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If you go to the Middle East as a Nazi, the Mossad will haunt you down. If you go to East Asia, the region was heavily damaged from WW2. South America was left out as far as I know so it's a good place for a new beginning.
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Large german populations in Argentina, easy to hide in.


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Old August 1st, 2011, 06:23 AM   #5

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If you go to the Middle East as a Nazi, the Mossad will haunt you down.
Not that the Mossad was that much of a threat to Nazis at the end of the war being as it wasn't formed until late '49
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Because that was one of the few places on earth that wasn't angry at them? I think it was mostly a move to try to build up strength for some form of "fourth-reich" and it was somewhat successful, as Neo-Nazism is still pretty rampant in that area, much more so than it is elsewhere in the world. You could also point to the "nazi-archeologist-faction" who were probably the biggest fanatics of the lot of them. If they ever found anything worth hiding, Argentina would be a good place to hide it.
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Most of them did. But why south America?
Why not Africa or Mexico...or somewhere else.

Why did they choose south America (argentina specifically)?
Argentine: The Peron regime, being fascist-inspired first-handedly and slammings its gates open for well-educated sympathizers in need of refuge and jobs. Also it was one of the wealthiest countries in the middle-war period which was left largely unaffected by the war. You could live a better life in Buenos Aires than in Hamburg (and far better than in Naples or Lisbon) if you had an education and a decent capital to start with (at least before the Wirtschaftswunder and Argentine's political turmoil in the 1950s-80s). Also the geographical distance, while still maintaining of a "European", "civilized" general culture, not to mention large German sentiments to integrate into made it an obvious option.

Basically, the same goes for every South American country (the Stroessner regime, led by a half-German military dictator, for example). These countries had a far stronger anti-UK and anti-US sentiments than fervent hatred for Nazis, and Peron asides several of them experienced significant advances for fascist-inspired movements (Getulio Vargas' Os Integralistas in Brazil, for example, as well as a National Socialist movement in Chile)

Another option would've been South Africa (though I suspect I think too much of eagerness to implement further racist nonsense etcetera rather than the basic needs of safety, food and comfort) since it had a strong German community within the white Afrikaner majority, as well as a friendly government (after 1948) particularly uneager to deal subserviently with the western powers (though certainly with Israel, given their common predicaments). Does anyone know how widespread such emigration were and why it wasn't more common?

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The German military was heavily involved in training military forces in South America as well as having strong diplomatic and trade links, Argentina is notable since the army was German trained and the Navy was British trained and there was some dispute over which side they should take.

Many Germans had also settled there pre-war to escape the economic depression of the 20s. Some of these German volunteers went to serve in the Wehrmacht and SS, so the Nazi state had personnal contacts with many people in South America as well as useful skills in the military and security services they could trade to pay their way.

Central America was unavailable from heavy FBI penetration during the war years, the USA itself however was wide open by either claiming to be a displaced person, claiming a false identity or by trading military and scientific skills with the US government.

Syria and similar anti-Israel states also wanted ex-Nazi's, another proponent of ex-nazi's were members of the Catholic church, now Hitler and the nazi state were gone their credentials as opponents of Communism was appealing to the more zealous churchmen which might also have helped influence South American governemnts.
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The German military was heavily involved in training military forces in South America as well as having strong diplomatic and trade links, Argentina is notable since the army was German trained and the Navy was British trained and there was some dispute over which side they should take.
Argentina has long had links with our RN, a friend of mine grew up in Argentina and only left when her father who was on secondment from the RN at the time felt that a midnight flit leaving all their belongings behind was the thing to do in April 1982.
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