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Old November 8th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #1
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What if Hitler and the nazis won WW2-?


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What if Hitler and the nazis won WW2-?

I ve been thinking of a logical answer to this question, but cant even come up with an even coherant response so I figured ide try here. IF hitler and the nazis won WW2, what would the world be like now? Would we all be goosestepping to a swastika flag, all be german speaking and praising hitler and reading mein kampf? even though THAT seems logical, i beg to differ......i believe the worlds economy would be stronger, and there would be no religious issues that were currently dealing with in the world today that impacts every level an sector of society in this day and age, I also believe histrory would of been rewritten to "praise the aryan" so to speak, as well as militarizing the nations of the world. but that is just MY opinion....now, lets hear yours.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 11:47 AM   #2

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Define 'win.' Does it mean total Axis domination of the world (which doesn't seem likely, even if they had scored a military victory)? Does it mean the mere survival of core fascist regimes such as Mussolini, Hitler and Tojo?

If you can give me a more detailed scenario, I'll give you a detailed prediction.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 11:53 AM   #3
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when I say win I mean conquer all of Europe..
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In fact, it's not so easy to figure out which kind of victory is the subject of the topic.

USSR won WW II, but now USSR is no more ...

To win a World War doesn't mean to grant one's domain over the planet.

Also the British Empire won the WW II, but also the British Empire is no more.

So, we should elaborate the matter a bit more.

Let's start from a winner of WW II which has kept a position of domination: the United States. As we can see in an easy way the world is a bit "Americanized", but I wouldn't sustain that Washington is dominating the planet.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 11:58 AM   #5

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There's been a few attempts to explore this in fiction, this is one of the ones I thought more realistic and interesting:

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Germany doesn't conquer the world, all that happens is they manage to sign a peace agreement with Britain. It's the Sixties. They're still at war with the Soviets, but they have had Moscow for a long time. They just can't quite manage to get past the Urals, it's too far and they are already stretched pretty thin.

The Holocaust is a dirty secret. The Germans have covered it up, and what happens in the novel is they're eliminating the people who knew about it.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #6

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when I say win I mean conquer all of Europe..
Ok, now it's more clear.

Defeating UK and Russia, Nazi Germany would have granted its domain over the continent. I cannot honestly say for how long.

Now, we can think to the "cooperating France" to think to how the conquered population could have accept such a situation.

Anyway the key would have been the diplomatic network of relationships with the other powers [United States overall].
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when I say win I mean conquer all of Europe..
All of Europe, or just the nations it was at war with during World War II? I don't see the benefit of the Nazis rolling into Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Portugal, etc.
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All of Europe, or just the nations it was at war with during World War II? I don't see the benefit of the Nazis rolling into Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Portugal, etc.
Ireland? well it depends on the British situation , a hostile and powerful Britain would be a complete pain to Germany and its access to the rest of the world.

German bases in Ireland would be very useful to threaten Britain (well thats what Britain always feared.)
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What if Hitler and the nazis won WW2-?

I ve been thinking of a logical answer to this question, but cant even come up with an even coherant response so I figured ide try here. IF hitler and the nazis won WW2, what would the world be like now? Would we all be goosestepping to a swastika flag, all be german speaking and praising hitler and reading mein kampf? even though THAT seems logical, i beg to differ......i believe the worlds economy would be stronger, and there would be no religious issues that were currently dealing with in the world today that impacts every level an sector of society in this day and age, I also believe histrory would of been rewritten to "praise the aryan" so to speak, as well as militarizing the nations of the world. but that is just MY opinion....now, lets hear yours.
It wouldn't have happened - study economic history. Germany was (although praising Hitler's genius for its marvellous recovery) on the verge of an economic collapse on the eve of war, and would've done so once the conquests halted and the bubble couldn't be blown any bigger (even including the conquest and occupation of European USSR) and a draconian economic crash had been inevietable. As with all regimes, and particularly the ruthless, totalitarian ones, security police et cetera always keep on going regardless of the state the country is in (just look at Baathist Iraq and Zimbabwe), however, the Nazi regime relied as much on the services provided for its (supposedly) loyal, "desirable" citizens until the very end of the war, when fear alone took over. I can't say for sure what would've happened had the German people as well turned on Hitler due economic and social decay, although likely it couldn't have survived in the long run. Fear itself might prevail in cases such as North Korea, given its cultural homogenuity and extreme isolation, but the Greater German Reich with its conquered territories and colonies was too big, too bloated and too culturally diverse. It would've broken up, even if the Nazis have had nukes and the Ark itself to protect themselves from threats beyond their borders.
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Berlin not Hiroshima would be the first nuclear polygon.
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