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December 18th, 2011, 09:16 AM
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#11 | | King of the Seas!
Joined: Nov 2010 From: Border of GA and AL Posts: 7,889 |
Why are the French there? Does it have something to do with the Knights Templar? If so I doubt most Templars were French.
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December 18th, 2011, 10:24 AM
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#12 | | Academician
Joined: Aug 2011 From: Minnesota Posts: 54 |
[QUOTE=Bart Dale;861719]A single buckle doesn't prove trade between Asia and Alaska. As the article noted, the buckle could have been brought over when the Eskimo's (Inuits) originally migrated to Asia.... Anyways, my claim still stands. Even if there was some limit trade between the Eskimos and some people in Asian, they still did not make their land known to the rest of the world.
If you read the article the Inuits arrived in the America, all the way over to Greenland, a rather remarkable journey i'll add, from Siberia beginning 1500 years ago. They continued to trade with their relatives back in Siberia which is only 80Km from Alaska with islands in between.
Just because Europeans didn't know about it dosen't mean it wasn't "discovered". The title of the poll is "Who found America" not "Who Found America for Europe".
By your limited definition you were only discovered today Bart Dale because I didn't of you before today. Therefore i will marktoday as Bart Dale discovery day and celebrate each year as such.
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December 18th, 2011, 12:15 PM
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#13 | | Historian
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Lago Maggiore, Italy Posts: 5,556 |
Among the 4 options, the Vikings [eventual French Templars who reached the new continent, before of the travels of Amerigo Vespucci is not historically correct to call it "America", cannot be placed in an accurate moment because there are no references about, if they were French ... of course].
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December 18th, 2011, 12:17 PM
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#14 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,541 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart Dale If you rephrase the question slightly as "Who discovere America for the rest of the world?" then the answer is clearly Columbus. The Native Americans may have been the first, but they didn't tell the rest of the world, neither did the Vikings nor the Chinese. Columbus was the man responsible for putting American on the map. (I agree with the experts who say the Vinland map is fake, and the Native Americans didn't make maps). | Columbus never set foot on the North American mainland. Hispanola on his first voyage, Cuba on the second, Puerto Rico on the third and Jamaica on the fourth.
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December 18th, 2011, 01:45 PM
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#15 | | Citizen
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 4 |
America was inhabited by people that hadn’t reported it lost. Yet it was ‘found’.
Some kids ‘found’ my car where I’d left it parked on my drive… I hadn’t lost it nor reported it lost… but it wasn’t there when I went out in the morning depriving me of its use. It was stolen.
In much the same way as my car… America was ‘found’ and stolen from its rightful owners.
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December 18th, 2011, 02:03 PM
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#16 | | Archivist
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 175 |
How about the Irish as the first Europeans to "find" America?
Any truth in Oscar Wilde's comment : Quote: | America had often been discovered before Columbus, but it had always been hushed up. | ?
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December 18th, 2011, 02:04 PM
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#17 | | Archivist
Joined: Dec 2011 From: Paris Posts: 156 | Quote:
Originally Posted by beorna The native americans  | Hi,
Indeed.
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December 18th, 2011, 03:23 PM
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#18 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,541 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ur-Lugal | There's good circumstantial evidence medieval Muslims, namely Malians, crossed the Atlantic in the 14th century. Whether they made it to North America proper is anybody's guess, but its possible they reached the Caribbean prior to Columbus.
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December 18th, 2011, 03:32 PM
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#19 | | l'esprit de l'escalier
Joined: Jan 2010 From: ♪♬ ♫♪♩ Posts: 12,305 |
Found as it may be in the past, lost it seems today.
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December 18th, 2011, 03:48 PM
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#20 | | The Good Knight
Joined: Feb 2011 From: Cumbernauld Scotland Posts: 7,365 |
Was it the Irish, has anyone seen Brendon Voyage. There is youtube of it. I will source it later.
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