Who found America - Page 3 - Historum

EpicHistory360 · December 18th, 2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jehosafats

Columbus never set foot on the North American mainland. Hispanola on his first voyage, Cuba on the second, Puerto Rico on the third and Jamaica on the fourth.

Still, his discoveries opened America up to more colonizations and trade (and the demise of the poor Native Americans) throughout the Age of Exploration/Discovery and the coming centuries. He may not have been first, but his trip to the Americas was the most significant.

Since this is still more of a technicality thing though, I voted Vikings.

llingjie · December 18th, 2011, 04:17 PM

Use Pacific ocean current, even a very simple ship can arrive Mexico in 50-60 days from china.

That's why first America civilization born in Mexico.

whalebreath · December 18th, 2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by llingjie

Use Pacific ocean current, even a very simple ship can arrive Mexico in 50-60 days from china.

You've never sailed on the so-called Pacific Ocean have you?

Because I have more times than I can count-I live a stone's throw away-and it's anything but.

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Originally Posted by llingjie

That's why first America civilization born in Mexico.

That is racist garbage of the most ignorant & odious variety.

As to OP's question see here-

**Mike McClure** · December 18th, 2011, 07:05 PM

The Indians were of course first but America has been re-discovered several times since until Columbus and Cabot. All deserve some of the credit

llingjie · December 18th, 2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whalebreath

You've never sailed on the so-called Pacific Ocean have you?

Because I have more times than I can count-I live a stone's throw away-and it's anything but.

That is racist garbage of the most ignorant & odious variety.

As to OP's question see here-

i am not play.

It was recorded that AD1955 four chinese men used a simple wood boat arrived Los Angeles from Fujian China. Just used 55 days.

same as such boat

whalebreath · December 18th, 2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by llingjie

i am not play.

Go peddle your racist garbage somewhere else.

**Zeno** · December 18th, 2011, 07:51 PM

C'mon fellas, can't we have that Christmas spirit??

steve_718 · December 19th, 2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bart Dale

If you rephrase the question slightly as "Who discovere America for the rest of the world?" then the answer is clearly Columbus. The Native Americans may have been the first, but they didn't tell the rest of the world, neither did the Vikings nor the Chinese. Columbus was the man responsible for putting American on the map. (I agree with the experts who say the Vinland map is fake, and the Native Americans didn't make maps).

Good point, I always wonder if the native americans knew about the old world before europeans came along.

**Salah** · December 19th, 2011, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_718

Good point, I always wonder if the native americans knew about the old world before europeans came along.

My exact sentiments.

**Black Dog** · December 20th, 2011, 04:05 PM

American natives did not "evolve" in America. They're the same species as us. They had to get there somehow. The main theory is that peoples living in the supercontinent, Eurasia, in what we'd now call Sibera, crossed the "land bridge" on the Bering straits, somewhere around 12,000 years at the most. This was at a time when sea levels were low due to ice being held up in the north. There would appear to be at least 3 waves of settlement, which, due to the climate stabilising, soon diversified.

This explains the broad physical similarities of American natives, and the great diversity of their languages.

The Welsh had a legend about Prince Madoc, who supposedly sailed from Wales in the 12th century and reached America. He supposedly built a fort and interacted with the Mandan tribe:

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I personally doubt it: the Welsh were never great seamen: most marine features in Wales have Norse, Irish or English names.