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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:14 PM   #1

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Best military commanders in all respects.


i've been trying to compile a list of top ten generals, and i decided i might as well use your help. please take in mind everything, not just tactics, not just strategy, but everything, tactics, strategy, who they were fighting, innovation, and, what what the did for their country. (for example, genghis khan might be up on the list because he turned a bunch of tribes into an empire.)
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:20 PM   #2

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Tokugawa Ieyasu. He had tactical and strategic skill, personal charisma, political astuteness and above all, patience. And not just a little luck either.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:30 PM   #3

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My top overall would probably have to be MacArthur. Then in no particular order; Julius Caesar, Hannibal, Alexander the Great, Robert E. Lee, Attila the Hun, Saladin, Genghis Khan, Cyrus the Great, and Napoleon.

There are a number of other greats Generals that I haven't included them in the list because their area was too narrow like the great tank generals like Patton and Clausewitz.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #4

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By adding Napoleon and alexander to the lists I think that you are ignoring a significant part of the criteria, which is...WHAT was their impact upon their nation. Alexander won battles but failed everywhere else and had his empire shattered, whilst napoleon drained France dry of resources to such a point that the officer corps and nobility would never recover, the effects were seen against prussia...

Ones who did help their nation would be like Gonzalo Fernandez de Cordoba, who not only defined military strategy for over a century, but professionalized his nation's army to such an extent that it went unbeaten across europe for a century.
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Napoleon Bonaparte. Nobunaga Oda, Saladin The Ayubbid, And most importently Falvivus Julius Caesar
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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:07 PM   #6

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Caesar and saladin...yes. they had long lasting effects. Napoleon? Economics should play a part in these debates!! The continental system was idiotic and his invasion of Spain was poorly thought out
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It was'n poorly thought out, Its just that The brits decided to do absolutely nothing apart from sit on hills and let the enemy come. he was fairly good at politics too
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Old June 12th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #8

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A great ingredient that the most successful commander all have is; their ability
to inspire their troops when times are toughest. All commander suffer loses and
there isn't one perfect template to copy; being human tends to rip the edges of
perfection. But for 'overall' great commanders I like George Washington,
Robert E. Lee, George Patton and Sam Houston.
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Napoleon, Alexander, Norman Schwarzkopf, Robert E Lee, Moshe Dayan, Saladin, Genghis Khan, and Hannibal
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Caesar and saladin...yes. they had long lasting effects. Napoleon? Economics should play a part in these debates!! The continental system was idiotic and his invasion of Spain was poorly thought out
thank u, im glad ur getting the idea of judging this on more then strategy and tactics.
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