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Old July 8th, 2012, 09:05 AM   #31

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Sir Max Hastings is also an excellent source for WWII.
He wrote an interesting history of the Falklands War as well.

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Stephen Ambrose is another I'm not fond of.
I thought The Wild Blue was quite good.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 10:25 AM   #32

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I like lots of historians but I only really hate one...David Irving, an out and out scumbag.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #33

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He needed to be a bit more critical.
He was pretty much as critical as it got back then
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Old July 8th, 2012, 10:30 AM   #34

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I like lots of historians but I only really hate one...David Irving, an out and out scumbag.
I can't believe I forgot about that scumbag. He definately beats out Newt Gingritch
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He was pretty much as critical as it got back then
No he didnt check what he was told. Polybius is the best ancient historian by far.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #36

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No he didnt check what he was told. Polybius is the best ancient historian by far.
I disagree. I think that would be between Tacitus and Thucydides.
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I disagree. I think that would be between Tacitus and Thucydides.
Polybius was factual, checked his sources as beat as he could, and tried to be unbiased. Also he covered my favorite wars!
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Old July 8th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #38

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Yeah but he just flat out made stuff up too
He was credulous and he reported stupid stories and traditions, sure, but it's harsh to say he just "made stuff up". There's a difference between incompetece and malicious invention. I struggle to think of any evidence that Herodotus deliberately lied.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #39

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Polybius was factual, checked his sources as beat as he could, and tried to be unbiased. Also he covered my favorite wars!

There's a little too much hero-worship of Rome for my tastes.
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I disagree. I think that would be between Tacitus and Thucydides.
Me too. I'd give Tacitus the edge. Narrative history - one of very few areas of intellectual activity that Romans did better than Greeks.
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