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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #41

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By far the greatest historical misrepresentation is Alexander's Indian campaign.
Conventional history has us convinces that he 'won' but the facts show something alltogether different:

1. Alexander went to India with 40,000-50,000 troops and emerged less than two years later with a fraction of that troops

2. Alexander's adversary (Porus) ended up with greater territorry and confirmed an equal after the battle.

3. Alexander styled himself more as a middle-eastern emperor than a Greek despot and in middle eastern empiric history, losses are not recorded, only victories are.

Those three facts leads me to believe that Alexandrine conquests in India is an outright fabrication.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #42

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The French Revolution, notably in (American) textbooks. I've seen to date about one or two good ones.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #43

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The Long March: according to communist Chinese history the long march was a heroic movement of the communist army from Jiangxi to Yan'an. It was nothing of the sort. It was a suicidal movement of people that caused tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths. Also the direction of the escape was orchestrated by Chiang Kai Shek and directed by the threats of Joseph Stalin.

For the communists to claim it was heroic in any way is plainly wrong.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 12:29 AM   #44
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The exaggerated number of victims of the Holocaust
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:06 AM   #45

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Explain please.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:11 AM   #46

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Another misrepresented event in history is that Freedom strugle by Indian national congress & Muslim league was solely responsible for India and Pakistan's independance.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:45 AM   #47

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oh yeah, they had a fantastic social housing program, workers rights based on the party union (free unions were banned) guaranteed subsidised holidays, cars, radios, social workers, maternity services, health care all free at point of need.. centralised media and state information services. the nazis run the worlds first tobacco health warning campaign for instance. do you know what it lead to? the worlds first consumer society.. nazi pre war germany was very much like 50's america.
I agree with this, also Italian Fascism came from a socialist environment [Mussolini was even a leader of the Socialist movement and he was director of a Socialist newspaper].

The point is that Nazis in Germany, and before of them Fascists in Italy, left the "socialist way" inventing a kind of "third way", the "social way".

The main difference is this: the authoritarian movements in Germany and Italy changed the conception of Socialist society into "Social State". Still today the word "Social" in the name of a party is quite negative in Italy [the MSI, Social Italian Movement was the party of the neo Fascists ...]
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:46 AM   #48

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One misconception (more from ordinary people than historians) was that of French military cowardice (ie the cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys).

Fairly undeserved, the British got kicked out of France by the Nazis as well, and if the USA army of the time was there instead I imagine it would have been smashed as well.

But could I convince a friend of mine that the French weren't inherently bad soldiers (and in fact had many conquests in history)? No I couldn't lol.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:49 AM   #49

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In Italy the expedition of the 1000 soldiers leaded by Garibaldi.

In our history books it seems that Garibaldi with 1000 soldiers conquered 1/2 peninsula facing the impossible. Actually south Italy was almost incapable to defend anything and the population was totally indifferent about who ruled in those regions.
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Fairly undeserved, the British got kicked out of France by the Nazis as well, and if the USA army of the time was there instead I imagine it would have been smashed as well.
I never remember reading or hearing anywhere that the British surrendered just as the French did.
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