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View Poll Results: Will Hilter's postion be raised to same level , that of Chengis Khan?
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Old November 10th, 2012, 06:47 AM   #1

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Hitler Attaining the Status of Chengis Khan


Do you Believe that Hilter would be raised to the Status of the Chengis Khan in the future ? Chengis Khan committed multiple Genocides but now people simply states them as Mass Killing and create a Kind of "Cool" and "Dare devil" " Bad arse" image in their Blogs and other portal. Will Hitler be raised to such a position by the Future Generations ?
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Old November 10th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #2
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Sadly so, genocide has been an extremely prevalent and ergo totally unspecific trait all along centuries.

Hardly any trait that would make per se any two random historical figures similar at all.

It's extremely hard to imagine any two more absolutely different figures in almost any aspect than Temüjin & Herr Hitler.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 07:43 AM   #3

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I think Hitler will have problems with the much more effective documentation of this age. Some pictures and images will work miracles.

But perhaps I'm just saying this because I hope he will not.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 07:55 AM   #4

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Bartieboy I agree. If we could see visuals of what people from history did, such as Julius Caesar or Ghengis Khan, then we would be appauled and it is likely they would have a similar reputation to Hitler now. Yet because it is all written in the form of story telling and we cannot fully comprehend what they did, they become heroes.

Unfortunately, I still agree with Sylla too, that even with the documentation of what Hitler has done plainly for all to see. Once a certain amount of time passes by, the true atrocity that took place is diluted. Even today people don't take seriously how horrendous WWII was. A few generations pass by and it is like it never happened... of course... until the next time and the forever circle of hatred that spins carries on.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #5

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Do people in the west perceive Chengis Khan as a hero? I thought that only Mongols and some commie-brainwashed Chinese would perceive him as a hero.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:26 AM   #6
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Sadly so, genocide has been an extremely prevalent and ergo totally unspecific trait all along centuries.

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Murder has been common. Genocide depends scientific illiteracy, peasant servitude and the need to stop capitalism's crisis, surely?
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #7

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Horses for courses, Genghis khan lived in a time of feudal overlords, warring tribes, when crushing your enemies and wholesale butchering of civillians was not umcommen.

Hitler lived in an age of reason governed by international laws and agreed conventions on warfare and the treatment of prisoners. The attempted wholesale murder / ethnic cleansing of an entire race, and his barbaric conduct of war put him in a league of his own, as the lowest of the low.
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Horses for courses, Genghis khan lived in a time of feudal overlords, warring tribes, when crushing your enemies and wholesale butchering of civillians was not umcommen.

Hitler lived in an age of reason governed by international laws and agreed conventions on warfare and the treatment of prisoners. The attempted wholesale murder / ethnic cleansing of an entire race, and his barbaric conduct of war put him in a league of his own, as the lowest of the low.
Genocide has never been normal to any society.

But I do understand what you say about the difference in the ages.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #9

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This is an interesting question. You can imagine that the farther away you get from historical events the easier it is to emphasize one aspect and have another fade. I can imagine people in a thousand years—if documentation and truths are not preserved well enough—could have a stronger idea of the Nazi conquests than their atrocities. People like the ideas of glory and conquering rulers, and a thousand years from now the people directly affected would be distant ancestors.

I'm pretty sure Hitler won't be viewed as anything but a genocidal tyrant in the future, but I can see how it would be possible for views to be warped with time.

Preserved documentation is the key. We might have different views of a lot of historical figures with the level of documentation we have had in recent history.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #10
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Murder has been common. Genocide depends scientific illiteracy, peasant servitude and the need to stop capitalism's crisis, surely?
Nope; genocide implies just actions performed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group (resolution 260 UN General Assembly, 1948)

Back to the OP, the genocides committed by Temüjin & Herr Hitler couldn't have been any more different.
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