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Old November 22nd, 2012, 02:12 PM   #21
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Short answer: No.

Somewhat longer observation: I think it's more a question that societies able to govern themselves do better than those that cannot. Historically this matter like all hell. First you need to get the ability to govern all manner of aspects of society, then we can quibble about how much or little of it is optimal.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 02:28 PM   #22

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We don't have to take Somalia, which is an example in extremis, as a demonstration of why the OP isn't always true.

Closer to home, the subprime crisis, and the associated financial crisis which exposed all sorts of financial shenanigans like various multi-million dollar/pound ponzi schemes serves as an ample demonstration of what happens when there isn't enough governance and regulatory oversight.
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It's not true, like when the Spaniards left the Philippines, the Americans governed better, but when the Japanese occupied the country, that was the worst. So the one that governs last does not mean it governs best.
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What think you Historumites? Is this axiom generally true? What are some relevant historical examples?
Only if he who giverns the least educates a great deal. If the population is well informed you don't need to police them a great deal, and they will seek suitable challenges to better themselves and society.
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The main issue is that "too much" depends on the culture of the country. What europeans find perfectly acceptable and natural (state providing healthcare for example) is view by a lot of americans as an unacceptable intrusion...
Of course. Each country has to figure it out for themselves.
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The main issue is that "too much" depends on the culture of the country. What europeans find perfectly acceptable and natural (state providing healthcare for example) is view by a lot of americans as an unacceptable intrusion.
And a lot of low-level mechanisms of social control one can find in US society have many Europeans completely gobsmacked over the level of intrusion it represents.

I think this OP suffers from a lack of precision about what we mean by "governing", and who it is we're supposing is doing it.
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