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Old November 26th, 2012, 04:32 PM   #41
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Being great is all well and good but there can be only one "Greatest":

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Old November 26th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Joe Freeman View Post
Why do they have to be military figures? I think of Gandhi, da Vinci, William Wallace and all the freedom fighters from around the world... Actually most of the heroes in history were not famous. They were guys just like you and me. And I think they are the only ones who deserve the title of "great".
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #43
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I am surprised it took so long to mention Gandhi. He would be my nominee!
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Old November 27th, 2012, 04:10 AM   #44

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I can only think of two monarchs whom I would call great...Asoka and Akbar:

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Old November 28th, 2012, 04:06 AM   #45

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Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
I am surprised it took so long to mention Gandhi. He would be my nominee!
Same feeling. May be nobody mentioned it because the title Great itself is smaller for the person like Gandhi.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 08:20 AM   #46
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In terms of leadership, I nominate Julius Caesar. In an era of great men, he stood a head above the rest.

In terms of genius, I nominate Isaac Newton. The greatest genius humanity has yet to produce.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:06 AM   #47

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Originally Posted by sylla1 View Post
Excellent point.
Seconded. Names that spring to mind (among hundreds of others and why shouldn't we try to name them all?)

Brother Roger
(Swiss) - founder of the ecumenical Taize community, where thousands of young people gather annually to think about the meaning of life

Mahatma Gandhi (Indian) - his constant pursuit of Everlasting Truth and leading his people in nonviolent resistance had all the marks of greatness

Jefrosinia Kiersnovska
(Russian) - proved human courage, dignity and love for one's country can't be crushed even by most cruel and unfair persecution

Franz Jagerstatter (Austrian) - refused to fight for Hitler knowing he'd pay the highest price; simple guy found the courage bishops, scientists and intellectuals lacked

Witold Pilecki (Polish) - anti-Nazi resistance hero, volunteer to Aushwitz, tortured and executed as a "nazi"

Martin Luther King
(American) - moved by the Spirit to deliver the greatest speech in English language

Sophie Scholl - dared to go against the crowd, faced death with faith

None of them were perfect, but it doesn't matter. I suppose people are destined to touch greatness only occasionally - and a few did.

"Greatness" that enslaves, tramples and kills human beings in the name of "greatness" (imperial and such) had better
vanish from the face of the earth.

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Originally Posted by jeroenrottgering View Post
Augustus, Napoleon and Alexander dont belong in that row.
strictly , your opinion ...and for which you are entitled to
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Old November 28th, 2012, 11:09 AM   #49
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Since the title traditionally goes with large conquests, I think Victoria is probably the most deserving person who has not received the title, unless you count Caesar Augustus...though arguably 'Augustus' is a greater title than 'The Great' or at least it was considered as much at the time.
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Da Vinci The Great
Aristotle The Greatest
Che Guevara The Overrated.
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