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Old December 4th, 2012, 09:53 PM   #52

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That's interesting to know Efendi....

The vowels or consonants seems to be the most prevalent justifications for the change in linguistic point of view....I'm convinced with that....but didn't the Latin script itself was moderated to allow such particular feathure of Turkish ?! Will it be difficult to moderate/alter the Arabic scripture to accomodate the same ?
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That's interesting to know Efendi....

The vowels or consonants seems to be the most prevalent justifications for the change in linguistic point of view....I'm convinced with that....but didn't the Latin script itself was moderated to allow such particular feathure of Turkish ?! Will it be difficult to moderate/alter the Arabic scripture to accomodate the same ?
it probably wouldn't be difficult at all. it's just a matter of mapping sounds to some characters as Kaficek already wrote in this thread.
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it probably wouldn't be difficult at all. it's just a matter of mapping sounds to some characters as Kaficek already wrote in this thread.
Then I'll actually ask a blatent question....

Did Attaturk hated Arabs ? Or hated the Connection to Islam altogether ?
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Then I'll actually ask a blatent question....

Did Attaturk hated Arabs ? Or hated the Connection to Islam altogether ?
what? no the man even fought alongside arabs in trablusgarp.
what he hated was an empire where religion was so intertwined with the state that contributed massively to its collapse. (for instance: the press was allowed in ottoman empire in 1727 before that it was "the devil's work/against islam")
that empire also happened to be using arabic script. if it was korean or mongol that should have been changed, too. since the old script was symbolizing the old collapsed empire.
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what? no the man even fought alongside arabs in trablusgarp.
what he hated was an empire where religion was so intertwined with the state that contributed massively to its collapse. (for instance: the press was allowed in ottoman empire in 1727 before that it was "the devil's work/against islam")
that empire also happened to be using arabic script. if it was korean or mongol that should have been changed, too. since the old script was symbolizing the old collapsed empire.
But it seems like that this battle took place before the Arab Revolt in 1919 ? I think the latter was a much more a defining moment in his ideology....
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Old December 5th, 2012, 03:18 AM   #57

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Then I'll actually ask a blatent question....

Did Attaturk hated Arabs ? Or hated the Connection to Islam altogether ?
Of course he didn't hate Arabs. He was a man above such petty racism. It was simply for Westernisation.
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But I think he wanted to erase it whatoever.....!

If its a Turkish identity all the way, then I don't see anything Turkish in the Latin script....someone would consider a close Turkish script.
He wanted to erase İslamic way of living/state model.No men on earth can erase Ottoman Empire from Turkish history.

Latin script is about westernisation.

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Knowing your stance on the Ottomans/Islam in general I wouldn't argue much
I am at least agree in one thing: "Inned dine indallahel Islam."
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Old December 5th, 2012, 03:51 AM   #59

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I actually admire most of his reforms.....that I won't change even he hated Arabs

Its only few of them that I don't digest.....like the language and the tendency to relegate/sideline Ottoman history or the role of Islam...
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He wanted to erase İslamic way of living/state model.No men on earth can erase Ottoman Empire from Turkish history.

Latin script is about westernisation.


I am at least agree in one thing: "Inned dine indallahel Islam."
That is exactly where a great confusion about religion comes, its present in our case as Arabs as well....This is obviously had to do with the "people's" way of living, their behavior and perception of modernization and religion....that can't be generalized to the religion itself....
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