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Old December 9th, 2012, 02:45 AM   #11

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If you look solely at 20th century history it would be Russia, since, as has been mentioned, they were one of the only two superpowers in the world for a good deal of the century.

However in the long run it was undoubtedly China, since Russia did not end the century very well, being destabilised, poor, and reduced to a lower rank player on the foreign political scene, while China was emerging as the next candidate for the second world superpower.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 08:47 AM   #12

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By the end of 1999 wouldn't more Russians have been pulled out of poverty than Chinese? (Compared to the start of the century).
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That's a good question but I don't think an ultimate, universal answer can be given for the 20th century as a whole so I'll add a bit myself, though correct me if I'm wrong.
As it has been mentioned previously, China's development after 1911 was significantly slower than Russia's/ the USSR's after 1917.

The latter started to industrialise towards the very end of the 19th cent. picking up speed with Stalin's 5-year plans shifting it's economy from agriculture to industrial production and resources.
At the same time China did not really begin to industrialise until the 1950s/60s despite efforts of the GMD, particularly in the 1930s.
By that time the USSR already sent satellites and people into space being one of the world's two superpowers. That said however, by the end of the century Russia lost most of it's sphere of influence, half of it's population and went to be a stagnating economy (1990s) mostly based on the export of military hardware and it's vast resources. China on the other hand finished the century being very much on the rise economically as well as geo-politically.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #14

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IMHO Russia was more successful. They put a man on the moon and were a superpower.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 04:48 PM   #15

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IMHO Russia was more successful. They put a man on the moon.
Is this a joke? We did unmanned flights there:

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Old December 11th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #16

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I think China. I'd say that China began to pull away from Russia economically in the 90s, and were already slightly better prior to the 90s.
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Oops, I meant to say a man in space.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #18

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I think China. I'd say that China began to pull away from Russia economically in the 90s, and were already slightly better prior to the 90s.
Would the standard of life for the average Russian still be better in the 1990s? If so then China was not better.
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I'd say that China began to pull away from Russia economically in the 90s, and were already slightly better prior to the 90s.
Care to explain this? China began pulling away from the Soviets in the 60s, and it wasn't until the fall of Communism in Russia that the two countries became closer economically.
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Care to explain this? China began pulling away from the Soviets in the 60s, and it wasn't until the fall of Communism in Russia that the two countries became closer economically.
Would you care to explain in what areas China began to pull away from the Soviets in the 1960's? I could be wrong so I need some input here.

As far as I know, except for a brief time in 1963*and 1964, China was in turmoil all during the 1960's. It wasn't until 1979 that China even had a twinkling that they might move past the objectives of mao and begin to prosper.
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