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View Poll Results: What type of history interestes you the most?
Political/diplomatic 18 20.93%
Economical 4 4.65%
Military 33 38.37%
Cultural (history of thoughts and ideas, cultural innovation) 22 25.58%
Biographies of major figures 9 10.47%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old December 14th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #61

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I wonder why the economic one is so neglected?
It's a common trend - as I posted earlier this year, there's a valid (if not unfair, as you may or may not see it) reason for that:
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Economic history used to be the subject in demand around the 1950-80's, but from then on has suffered a bit of a slump. They're certainly in the minority as compared to, say, cultural historians or scholars on globalised topics, who've recently (read, in the last two decades) emerged as prominent in universities (although here talking more of the US/UK). In that sense, and given its primacy, it's quite secure, but it would really depend on what area you're researching in.
I didn't add it then, but should have: it's down to stress in the academic field that follow trends as a whole - e.g. the events in Algeria, for instance, amongst numerous others contributing to shape post-colonialism as a key study, or (and, rather) deconstructivism and the 'linguistic turn' placing emphasis for scholars on taking a more intellectual, discursive methodology, seeing primacy in words and discourse over, say, Marxist orthodoxies that had been prevalent before the turn. Let alone to mention the then-incipient foci on globalisation studies, lower cultural scholarship, etc.
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Old December 16th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #62
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Millitary history just doesn't interest me that much. To me wars are just surface events that obscure the deeper historical forces that interest me more.

On the other hand, the history of military equipment is fascinating. If I were a billionaire I would have a giant garage full of replicas of swords, spears, axes, maces, armor, etc. from various time periods.

Yeah, I'm weird.
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Old December 16th, 2012, 08:49 AM   #63
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I agree that economics is probably one of the most fundamental historical studies. It just doesn't interest me personally that much. But I readily admit that a lot of cultural history and history of ideas (which is what I voted for) is founded on basic studies of historical economics. Economics was and is still basically what makes our world go round, and is even the mother of military history.

And of course from where I come from during the deplorable 70s and 80s if you conducted such a poll you would get a result for economical history in the 80 or 90% range. All based on marxist materialism of course and all exceedingly boring. I have tried to chew through a number of such studies and they are mostly useless nowadays because they are founded on such dogmatic ideological theory. The Marxist majority did pose some interesting questions but they answered them so incredibly poorly that we basically have to do the work all over again in recent times. But of course that is the history of history.
Heh, I'm a Leftist and even I find a lot of Marxist historical ideas to be simply stupid, mainly because Marxists turned Marx's ideas into a religious dogma and tried to impose his hypotheses on economic history where they didn't fit.

An example is Marx's hypothesis about societies evolving from primitive societies to slave-based societies to serf-based societies to Capitalism. I think this is wrong, I see a very different progression:

1. "Palace Economies" centered around the rule of a God-King. All land was theoretically owned by the ruler and the commoners were liable to be conscripted for building projects.

These went into decline during the Late Bronze Age Collapse and were replaced by...

2. "Aristocratic Economies" based on individual ownership of farmland by some combination of small free-holding yeomen and large landowners controlling slaves, serfs, or free tenant farmers.

These were then replaced in the Early Modern Period by...

3. "Capitalist Economies" based on private companies fueled by more liquid forms of assets than land and employing free laborers.



Marx missed #1 and wrongly separated #2 into separate "slave" and "serf" phases because at his time ancient history before Classical Greece and Rome was poorly known, as was the history of India and China.
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Millitary history just doesn't interest me that much. To me wars are just surface events that obscure the deeper historical forces that interest me more.

On the other hand, the history of military equipment is fascinating. If I were a billionaire I would have a giant garage full of replicas of swords, spears, axes, maces, armor, etc. from various time periods.

Yeah, I'm weird.
I feel that way about history, when there is a film on and its about a battle it just bores me to tears. Give me something about people's lives in history and their biography of what they have done in their lifetime is more interesting.
I find social history very interesting as well as old machines and antiques of all eras.
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Old December 16th, 2012, 12:44 PM   #65

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My favourite kind of military history is generally that which includes a lot of eye-witness content... letters, diaries etc which let you see the events through the eyes of 'ordinary' people.
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Old December 16th, 2012, 12:50 PM   #66
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On the other hand, the history of military equipment is fascinating. If I were a billionaire I would have a giant garage full of replicas of swords, spears, axes, maces, armor, etc. from various time periods.

Yeah, I'm weird.
And there's War Wolf. During sieges Longshanks had these , among up to twelve siege machines battering Castles. I'd love to work one myself. Also Roman Ballista and other ancient machines, maybe we should start another thread on this.

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Old December 16th, 2012, 01:00 PM   #67

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Old December 16th, 2012, 01:26 PM   #68

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Its military history for me, especially Medieval and earlier
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Old December 16th, 2012, 02:14 PM   #69
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And there's War Wolf. During sieges Longshanks had these , among up to twelve siege machines battering Castles. I'd love to work one myself. Also Roman Ballista and other ancient machines, maybe we should start another thread on this.

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I love siege weapons, thanks!

I remember a show on the History channel showing how Archimedes "death ray" may have worked, according to the show all you needed was a bunch of polished hoplite shields.
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