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Old December 12th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #1

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Europe in the war of the roses


A bit of a random question really, but what was going on in Europe during the war of the roses?
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The Ottomans are fighting the Hungarians of John Hunyadi and Albanians of Skandenbeg.
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Whilst England was embroiled in the Wars of the Roses it was also taking part in foreign wars at the same time. For example, between 1470 and 1474 England fought the Hanseatic League, led by the cities of Gdansk and Lubeck, in the Anglo-Hanseatic War.
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Whilst England was embroiled in the Wars of the Roses it was also taking part in foreign wars at the same time. For example, between 1470 and 1474 England fought the Hanseatic League, led by the cities of Gdansk and Lubeck, in the Anglo-Hanseatic War.
Thank you for that, I never realized that England was doing things other than fighting itslef
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Thank you for that, I never realized that England was doing things other than fighting itslef
It was part of the War of the Roses and mainly a naval war of commerce raiding.
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Whilst the houses of Lancaster and York were battling for supremecy in England the French were having their own budget version with the `spider king` Louis XI pitched against the Bergundians under Charles the Bold.
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Well, the Medicis are taking over Florence, which would be important for all kinds of things from banking, to Renaissanse art, and occultism as well.

The Portugese were starting to sail the Atlantic and down along the African coast.

Muscowy conquered Novgorod, and then managed to defeat the Golden Horde to finally break its vassalisation to it.

Castile and Anragon were in the process of uniting themselves, and Spain.

The Great Nordic Union was a right mess, with kings Christian I of Denmark and Charles VIII of Sweden playing musical chairs on the throne of Sweden (later in the period the Sture family taking the reins of power in Sweden, and the Union king forced to try to conquer the place outright).

And as said, the Ottomams were expanding after having taking Constantinopolis in 1453, picking up stray Byzantine areas like Trebizon, running into, among others king Mathias Corvinus, king of Hungary having a golden age of itself — and into Vlad "the Impaler" Dracul of Wallachia.

While in France the king was in the process of defeating the Burgundians under Charles the Bold (though iirc the Swiss did for him on the battle field), while inheriting other key lands, like the duchy of Anjou.
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It's interesting that when you go on Wikipedia and look up the events which happened in the years 1455 to 1485, most of the years are almost entirely dominated by the Wars of the Roses. It's as though hardly anything else happened elsewhere in the world.

But here are some events which happened elsewhere in Europe during the Wars of the Roses:

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1444: The first European slave market for the sale of African slaves, the Mercado de Escravos, opens in Lagos, Portugal.

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1456 - Vladislav II, reigning Prince of Wallachia (modern southern Romania), is killed in battle by Vlad III Dracula (above), who succeeds him.

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1462 - The Kingdom of Poland defeats the Teutonic Order during the Thirteen Years' War.

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1481 - Fire destroys the roof and the spires of the Cathedral of Notre Dame at Rheims.

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1484 - Battle of Lochmaben Fair, Scotland: A 500-man raiding party led by Alexander Stewart, Duke of Albany, and James Douglas, 9th Earl of Douglas, is defeated by forces loyal to Albany's brother James III of Scotland (above); Douglas is captured.

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It's interesting that when you go on Wikipedia and look up the events which happened in the years 1455 to 1485, most of the years are almost entirely dominated by the Wars of the Roses. It's as though hardly anything else happened elsewhere in the world.
I dare say you can get that impression if limited to English language sources on the web, yes. Not at all sure it signifies anything beyond that.
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