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Old March 4th, 2009, 01:19 AM   #11
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Well militarily Britain is clearly superior to America, and being a soldier I'd know about that.

So yeah, more specifically;

Whose military has proved to be more effective throughout their existance?
Britain's, or America's?

Just for the record, I think yanks have some top class men, but their mass of war tech has never proved a worthy replacment to our [Britain's] professionalism.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 01:25 AM   #12

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Well militarily Britain is clearly superior to America, and being a soldier I'd know about that.

So yeah, more specifically;

Whose military has proved to be more effective throughout their existance?
Britain's, or America's?

Just for the record, I think yanks have some top class men, but their mass of war tech has never proved a worthy replacment to our [Britain's] professionalism.
Sorry but is that the ego of a soldier? Because America would beat Britain after a tough fight through sheer force of everything.
Yes well throughout their existence though I agree that Britain's military has undoubtedly been more effective.
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Would they?

Results wise, the US Army has a terrible post 1950 record - Vietnam/Korea/Somali and so on.

When you get in the field, the most important factor is how good your ground soldiers are. You can have all the air support you want, and the best small arms (M4A1 in Americas case) and it doesn't compensate for having poor soldiers.

and by comparison to our lads, I have to say US troops are poor.

Historically of course, Britain has survived two world wars, and centuries of European and Empire warfare, which is why the majority of American military tactics and units are drawn from British ideas. We just have far more command experience.

For example;
-Royal Marines > USMC (United States Marine Corps)/Rangers
-SAS (Special Air Service) > Delta Force/US Navy Seals/Green Beret
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Well, I like to fill taco shells with jellied eel (for the contrasting textures, you see). So it's really a bit of a toss-up for me.
And I like curry sauce on my hamburgers.

If we can persuade the scots to start deep frying Twinkies a whole new cuisine is born.
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Would they?

Results wise, the US Army has a terrible post 1950 record - Vietnam/Korea/Somali and so on.

When you get in the field, the most important factor is how good your ground soldiers are. You can have all the air support you want, and the best small arms (M4A1 in Americas case) and it doesn't compensate for having poor soldiers.

and by comparison to our lads, I have to say US troops are poor.

Historically of course, Britain has survived two world wars, and centuries of European and Empire warfare, which is why the majority of American military tactics and units are drawn from British ideas. We just have far more command experience.

For example;
-Royal Marines > USMC (United States Marine Corps)/Rangers
-SAS (Special Air Service) > Delta Force/US Navy Seals/Green Beret
See here now Spec Ops do not by any means win a war besides I'm quite stunned at your comment about having better 'ground troops', America has way better ones than yours though I wholeheartedly support you on the point of 'command experience' despite the fact that none of it is applicable in modern warfare. Personally I agree that Britain ground troops are better but for some reason known to themselves the British political leadership has made the ground forces of Britain a total farce as compared to the glorious yesteryears of the British army.
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Would they?

Results wise, the US Army has a terrible post 1950 record - Vietnam/Korea/Somali and so on.

When you get in the field, the most important factor is how good your ground soldiers are. You can have all the air support you want, and the best small arms (M4A1 in Americas case) and it doesn't compensate for having poor soldiers.

and by comparison to our lads, I have to say US troops are poor.

Historically of course, Britain has survived two world wars, and centuries of European and Empire warfare, which is why the majority of American military tactics and units are drawn from British ideas. We just have far more command experience.

For example;
-Royal Marines > USMC (United States Marine Corps)/Rangers
-SAS (Special Air Service) > Delta Force/US Navy Seals/Green Beret
Though I gotta tell you one thing from personal experience it's downright shocking the amount of resources that the American lads get and waste, it's like they're up in paradise where God's granted them everything that they ever wanted.
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And I like curry sauce on my hamburgers.

If we can persuade the scots to start deep frying Twinkies a whole new cuisine is born.
I like scrapple with my deep fried Twinkies. Gotta keep it real, man.
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Unless you have any military experience, you won't know why British soldiers are the best.

I've been through the system, and I can say that not only are British troops far more highly trained, but the officers are the most competant in the world.

'America has way better ones than yours'

Other than patriotism, there is no support for this quote whatsoever. Too put it mildly, the British reserves (TA) take 5 weeks longer to train than US regulars, and British officers spend an extra year earning their insignia.

and the famous UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS, although you might believe so, are not elite, nor special operatives. Force Recon, is superior, but still not on a par with the Royal Marines.

The long and short of it is, Britain has less men, but compenstates for this with a much higher standard of training - which is certainly more vital in modern day warfare.
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While we can debate the issue about who has the better trained men, it's really not a deal breaker considering everything else. America has superior military technology and vastly superior supplies of manpower and resources. In the end, the conflict wouldn't end well for the Brits.
Really the only thing that would give me pause is the question of if the American public would have the stomach for a war that would certainly lead to massive amounts of casualties on both sides. I question if they do.
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Trizzo-is UK's airforce and navy better also?
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