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Old September 3rd, 2013, 03:25 PM   #1
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Examples of History Repeating Itself...


"Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it".
Apparently those that DO know history are also quite likely to repeat it also.

When Princess Diana died in 1997 and the British Royal Family stuck rigidly to convention, rather than following the over sentimentalised wishes of the public, by not flying flags at half mast over Royal properties or arranging a Royal funeral - it led to their popularity falling to an all time low.

This situation struck me as being remarkably similar to the Death of Germanicus, in Syria, when Tiberius, Livia and Rome's Imperial Family were perceived to have shown too little respect. Tens or hundreds of thousands of Roman Citizens came out to mourn at every place the body passed by, on it's way back to Rome.
When Emperor Tiberius (Uncle and rival of Germanicus) and Livia (his Grandmother) didn't come out to meet the funeral and grieve with the public, the public quickly turned against Tiberius and the Augusta and threw their support behind the widow Agrippina and the children that she and Germanicus had.

This situation was only calmed when an enemy of Germanicus had been hounded through the courts until he committed suicide - and this part doesn't have a parallel with the 1997 Diana death.

What incidents of historical repeats have you noticed?
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 03:35 PM   #2

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The most obvious being Napoleons invasion of Russia and Hitler's.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 04:57 PM   #3

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Britain's invasion of Afghanistan, installation of a puppet government and attempt to hold it in a guerilla war.
Russia's invasion of Afghanistan, installation of a puppet government and attempt to hold it in a guerilla war.
America's invasion of Afghanistan, installation of a puppet government and attempt to hold it in a guerilla war.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 05:12 PM   #4

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"Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it".
Apparently those that DO know history are also quite likely to repeat it also.

What incidents of historical repeats have you noticed?
Events repeating themselves have nothing to do with whether you study history or not. It is the behaviorial pattern of the human species that finds a way to may not always repeat things to the exact measure of a past event, but does comes close.

Then there are times, when the event is entirely by-passed. Less with the knowledge of that event, but more of thinking 'outside-the-box' of what should be done during that situation that creates a new string of events.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 05:29 PM   #5

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Robert E Lee stumbled into the same choice as George Washington, serving his rebellious homeland against the central government.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 06:04 PM   #6

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The various Empires created by Nomadic horse-archer tribes ( the Huns, the Parthians, the Seljuk Turks, the Mongols, etc) that usually collapse once the tribes become settled a generation after their conquests.

Also the breakdown of Alexander's and Genghis Khan's Empires after their deaths with the successor states being ruled by the descendents of the generals who aided them.

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Old September 3rd, 2013, 06:40 PM   #7

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The rise and fall of the Empire of Nicholas II and the Soviet Empire that succeeded it have a great many extremely ironic parallels.

More to the point, the House of Romanov, which rose to power in an Ipatiev Monastery and whose last Tsar was slain in an Ipatiev House, certainly has a great many ironic parallels.
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The World Wars are a prime example. As are Afghanistan and America's addiction to conflict.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 07:27 PM   #9

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I agree with Congo. It is human behavior that puts a certain consistency in unfolding events, which is why history "does not repeat, but rhymes". (Mark Twain?)

But this time things will be different. Our way of life will last forever.
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The early city-states phase of Mesopotamian history reminds me of Classical Greece. Also, the Napoleonic and Nazi incursions into Russia come to mind.

I also agree on the following statement:

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The various Empires created by Nomadic horse-archer tribes ( the Huns, the Parthians, the Seljuk Turks, the Mongols, etc) that usually collapse once the tribes become settled a generation after their conquests.

Also the breakdown of Alexander's and Genghis Khan's Empires after their deaths with the successor states being ruled by the descendents of the generals who aided them.
Except that Parthians ruled for 400 years.
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