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Old August 13th, 2014, 12:51 PM   #31

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True.

The one that really annoys me is Wellington said "Just because one is born in a barn does not make one a horse." He never said that, but it gets repeated over and over again.
Its debated whether he said it as I understand,

I believe O'Connell said it about him when some one said that Wellington was Irish.

I have also read an explanation that Wellington did say but not in the context is so often used in but rather Wellington was complaining that an Irish regiment (or indeed regiments) had a problem with drink when an observer pointed out that he was Irish, to which he made the reply. So it means just because you're Irish doesn't mean you have a problem with drink.

Of course both could be true with O'Connell rehashing a comment.
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Old August 13th, 2014, 12:53 PM   #32

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Ninjas.
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Old August 13th, 2014, 12:58 PM   #33

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Please elaborate on this part.
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The incest rumor between Lucrezia, Cesare, and Rodrigo Borgia is especially heinous/annoying. That, and Marie-Antoinette never said "Let them eat cake."
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Very good point in this regard; however, wasn't a large part of this massive Native American "demographic devastation" caused by the spread of European diseases to which Native Americans had little or no immunity to? If so, then while this is certainly atrocious, it is a bit different from enduring massive "demographic devastation" due to having enormous numbers of your ethnic group being purposely killed, as was the case with the Jews.
there were massacres, and certain tribes were exterminated by wars, advise researching the spanish just war and encomienda system, and the Portuguese Bandeirantes, in south america usually a tribe was offered, the conversion or extermination, maybe a great number died by diseases, but there were other factors that made local populations fall, wars and exterminations were two factors.
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The claim that Columbus [Italian name Cristoforo Colombo] discovered America ... while it was evident that someone else arrived there before of him [a part later clues and evidences that Vikings reached American, he met persons on the coasts!].
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The short Napoleon myth never ceases to annoy me.
Agreed. Wasn't he really 5'7"? Not tall by today's standards but not short by his.
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Tall Vikings. Skeletal examinations across what was then the Scandinavian world (i.e. including England and northern Scotland) have shown they averaged out at around 5'8 or 5'9, the same as other European peoples or a bit shorter.
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Agreed. Wasn't he really 5'7"? Not tall by today's standards but not short by his.
Yep! French inches are larger than English inches, which clocked him in at around 5'3, whereas in the Anglosphere, he was 5'7.
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Agreed. Wasn't he really 5'7"? Not tall by today's standards but not short by his.
Overall if you consider that he was French, not a Viking, the mean stature of the French men of early 19th century was comparable to the one of the Italians, not of the Germans or the British ...
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