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Old August 29th, 2006, 12:29 PM   #1
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Heroes that have taken a fall?


Who are some people who were heroes during their time or at a certain point in their life, but later took a fall.

An example is Benedict Arnold. He felt he wasn't getting enough credit for the battles he won for america. Falsely accused of corruption while serving in Pennsylvania. He said "screw it" Decided to take a bribe and commission in the British army for detailed plans of West Point defenses.

If he had waited a few more days before making this rash decision Washington was ready to give him a field command. And he would be back in action at leading troops in battle, which is all he wanted...
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Wasn't it Horatio Gates who took credit for many of his victories? And I also understand he had contact with Ethan Allan, who also took one from him.
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Old August 29th, 2006, 12:47 PM   #3

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Wasn't it Horatio Gates who took credit for many of his victories? And I also understand he had contact with Ethan Allan, who also took one from him.
Indeed, Gates wanted the glory all to himself. Washington was flabergasted when he learned Arnold had turned coat.
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Old August 29th, 2006, 12:50 PM   #4

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Ahh, thank you for the clear-up. Arnold could have been the greatest hero of the revolution if he wouldn't of turned.
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Old August 29th, 2006, 01:08 PM   #5

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Charles Lindberg comes to mind. He was an aviation hero with his flight around the world. Then he became a Nazi.
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Ahh, thank you for the clear-up. Arnold could have been the greatest hero of the revolution if he wouldn't of turned.
The Saratoga campaign was won in large part due to the command of Arnold. Gates took the credit for it, and he and Gates had been at odds for some time now, and that ultimately set Arnold on the road to treason.

Washington had already given him command of Philadelphia, it was the cooperation of the French that he opposed greatly. Coupled with the fact that he was already ill at congress for refusal to repay expenses to him, I need to check on that, and passing him by for promotion. He felt he deserved mre credit than what he got. So, when the British offered him a better comission, he took it.
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Old August 29th, 2006, 04:25 PM   #7

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Marius was the hero of Rome then sacked Ostia, Rome's port, and murdered everyone who opposed him in Rome.
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Old August 30th, 2006, 01:48 PM   #8

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Zinedine Zidane. French soccer hero. They still love him, but I can't stand him. To me, his entire career can be summed up by his getting a red card in the final minutes of the 2006 World Cup for a stupid retaliatory attack.

Screwed his team out of a win.

Screwed his country out of the World Cup.

And now I don't want to talk about him with my son.
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