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Old November 9th, 2017, 01:25 AM   #1
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Historical fiction deserves a much more prominent position


Or should I have made the headline a question?
But is it not so, that history has more oe leas been pushes away,
or out in the perifery of the litterary qorkd, as well as that of film etcetera?
Genres like pure adventure, "contemporary" novels, fantasy and "science fiction" seems to me to be more in focus (it could, by the way, be asked if not both"historical" fiction and even more "science" fiction really try to unite opposites, since acience and fiction seems truly mutually excluasive if taken at face value, so "science fiction" seema more of an oxymoron).
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Sorry, but I really don't understand.
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I think, he means what kind of historical fiction desserves the greater prominence.
.....Maybe

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Old November 9th, 2017, 07:48 AM   #4

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Im fairly certain that he wants to discuss why historical fiction is not as popular or held in as high esteem as other literary genres and whether or not it should be viewed as more important than it is now.
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Im fairly certain that he wants to discuss why historical fiction is not as popular or held in as high esteem as other literary genres and whether or not it should be viewed as more important than it is now.
That is simple to answer. Modern audience often sticks to light hearted readings. When topics get too serious and thought provoking, people often ignore it. You guess it right when I don't value the ignorant masses.

This why I never write with a broad audience in mind. I simply write whatever I think has literary value and what I want to write, instead of if it is entertaining enough. You wont find random erotic scenes in my stories, because they simply don't belong there.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 11:25 AM   #6
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Sorry, but I really don't understand.
Sorry there is so many errors in the text.
But I simply wanted to say that I find historical fiction is often not taken seriously.
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But I simply wanted to say that I find historical fiction is often not taken seriously.
I replied to that
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Old November 9th, 2017, 11:43 AM   #8
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I can only speak about the situation in the UK, but I think here that some historical fiction is taken seriously indeed - in other words it is not treated as though all works in the genre are of equal value (or lack of it).
Some classics, like a few of Dickens, and some of Thackeray and a lot of Scott are historically set.
Recently Hilary Mantel's two novels about Thomas Cromwell have won the Booker prize.
(And her other historical novels are well thought of critically).

Look at the genre of historical naval novels - most are I sippose just looked as adventure stories, yet Patrick O'Brian's have had some literary acclaim.
Basically if something is well written it is not dismissed just because it is historical.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 12:10 PM   #9

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There is a lot of good stuff in historical novels ,
it all depend on the accuracy of the background and the plausibility of the personages motivations
the best are brilliant ,they can wet the appetite of the reader for some inquiry into the real times , places and people .
As a matter of fact well written biographies can be rip roaring and gripping stuff
so much of history read like the best of novels

certainly Hilary Matel has performed a brilliant feat in overturning people opinion of Cromwell
he come out as very likeable , the TV serie was pretty good , though I would have seen Cromwell played by a more chunky actor ( a younger Bob Hoskins )
she might not be right but she open the mind to a broader perspective
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The best historical novelists--Scott and Thackeray among them--can take period of time, stick pretty closely to the facts, and make learning about it interesting.
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