Historum - History Forums  

Go Back   Historum - History Forums > Themes in History > History Book Reviews > Historum Book Discussion
Register Forums Blogs Social Groups Mark Forums Read

Historum Book Discussion History Book Discussion Forum

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old September 12th, 2017, 03:28 PM   #11

robto's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2014
From: Lisbon, Portugal
Posts: 5,584

US lost because they couldn't maintain (and were not really willing to maintain) a military presence in Indochina forever. Their two decades involvement in the region didn't stop or diminish Communist influence in the region, therefore their mission was a failure - they basically failed to reach their objective.
robto is online now  
Remove Ads
Old September 12th, 2017, 03:58 PM   #12

Tulius's Avatar
Joined: May 2016
From: Portugal
Posts: 3,854

Originally Posted by Wenge View Post
NO, the United States did not lose the war. To say that the Americans lost the war is pure stupititify.
You mean “stupidity” or “covfefe”?

Typo apart, it doesn’t improve your argument giving negative nomenclatures to the others reasoning. Again, if the USA went to war and didn’t fulfil its objectives, while the enemy did, how can we consider that it did not lose the war?
Tulius is offline  
Old September 12th, 2017, 07:20 PM   #13

sparky's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2017
From: Sydney
Posts: 2,078
Blog Entries: 1

actually , while the US Army lost the war , the grand political objectives of stopping the spread of communism in south East Asia was accomplished .

by 1973 the communist block was broken ,
Indonesia and Malaysia had dealt ( harshly) with their respective internal dissent , Thailand felt safe enough to dip an interventionist toe in Cambodia ,
Laos was walking the tightrope between the blocks , while hating all foreigners .
Vietnam and China had a border war
the supreme poker of Nixon going to shake hand with Mao was the sign of greater thing to come
relation with the USSR were having some pretty good detente and nuclear treaties

sometime winning is incidental to obtaining a good outcome ,
sometimes marking time is the winning strategy
something the US military is too blinkered to understand
as Clemenceau once said "war is too serious a business to let the generals run it "
sparky is offline  
Old September 25th, 2017, 04:52 AM   #14

jgrooms's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2017
From: Shawnee
Posts: 358
The Vietnam War- WHAT really happened?

^ before one gets lost in the domino myth of an all in one communist bloc, ask yourself how countries, those directly in the path of these dangerous dominos reacted? Well after Tet when Clifford went to ask Thailand, the Philippines, Australia & NZ to increase their token troop numbers, they refused. So much for this supposedly monolithic Communist threat to SEA & W Pacific.

The whole concept, however strongly Eisenhower may have believed it, was wrong. And later leadership was locked into it & often used it as marketing 101. Simple msg for simple people. The historical record from the other side of the hill shows this as well.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jgrooms is offline  
Old September 25th, 2017, 05:01 AM   #15

jgrooms's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2017
From: Shawnee
Posts: 358
The Vietnam War- WHAT really happened?

Those interested in Vietnam War should check out PBS series underway. Six covering 68 was probably the high point for drama. Tet, the Press, King, Kennedy, “world gone mad” & LBJ won’t run.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Last edited by jgrooms; September 25th, 2017 at 05:08 AM.
jgrooms is offline  

  Historum > Themes in History > History Book Reviews > Historum Book Discussion

happened, vietnam, vietnam war, war

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
★How important wer the Vietnam Anti-War Movement in ending the Vietnam War? NicholasK History Help 8 November 3rd, 2013 10:48 AM
Why did North Vietnam win the Vietnam War? Son of Cathal Asian History 31 April 27th, 2011 10:44 PM
Would the Vietnam War have happened if JFK had lived? WWu777 Speculative History 13 September 6th, 2010 12:41 AM

Copyright © 2006-2013 Historum. All rights reserved.