Heinlein, Starship Troopers - Page 18 - Historum

Moishe3rd · February 8th, 2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Belgarion

To compare the movie to the book is bordering on the sacrilegious. The book was an insightful social commentary as well as an excellent adventure story, while the movie was a cheap and inaccurate exploitation of a great novel.

I think that's a little over the top regarding the movie...
It wasn't that good...

As a boy, I read everything that Heinlein wrote. And, I believe that this and "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress" as a distant second are the only novels that stood the test of time.
Even my favorite back then "Stranger in a Strange Land," turns out old RAH as a somewhat ignorant and bigoted lout regarding life and religion.
Most of the rest of his books (and mind you, I Loved Heinlein) disappoint tremendously when viewed through "adult eyes." I suspect if Robert would have had the Internet, he would not have obsessed quite so much on soft core porn and maybe had a few more characters other than the Wise old Man; the incredible intelligent and sexual heroine; and the dufus guy Hero who just happens to be loved in spite of himself...
Ahh... but - I did love them so...

SirOrmondeWinter · February 9th, 2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Moishe3rd

I think that's a little over the top regarding the movie...
It wasn't that good...

As a boy, I read everything that Heinlein wrote. And, I believe that this and "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress" as a distant second are the only novels that stood the test of time.
Even my favorite back then "Stranger in a Strange Land," turns out old RAH as a somewhat ignorant and bigoted lout regarding life and religion.
Most of the rest of his books (and mind you, I Loved Heinlein) disappoint tremendously when viewed through "adult eyes." I suspect if Robert would have had the Internet, he would not have obsessed quite so much on soft core porn and maybe had a few more characters other than the Wise old Man; the incredible intelligent and sexual heroine; and the dufus guy Hero who just happens to be loved in spite of himself...
Ahh... but - I did love them so...

Ah but you misunderstand, without the internet people relied on Heinlein and co for their soft porn.
The movie was good although a shame they didn't have the budget for both bugs and power armour

**okamido** · February 9th, 2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SirOrmondeWinter

Ah but you misunderstand, without the internet people relied on Heinlein and co for their soft porn.

It must have been a cold, souless world back then.

SirOrmondeWinter · February 9th, 2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by okamido

It must have been a cold, souless world back then.

It was but in some ways I'm nostalgic for it, you lived in anticipation of the Dr Who repeats and a single Playboy would last all month (darn there's no icon for 'wistful'!)

CuriousHistorian · February 12th, 2012, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by okamido

It must have been a cold, souless world back then.

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Originally Posted by SirOrmondeWinter

It was but in some ways I'm nostalgic for it, you lived in anticipation of the Dr Who repeats and a single Playboy would last all month (darn there's no icon for 'wistful'!)

Just as well, given it's a monthly publication.

Have to say, I didn't rely on Heinlein for soft porn. Were you at boarding school?

Moishe3rd · February 14th, 2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SirOrmondeWinter

It was but in some ways I'm nostalgic for it, you lived in anticipation of the Dr Who repeats and a single Playboy would last all month (darn there's no icon for 'wistful'!)

Yes. It was a different world. I believe I received my first real sex education from "Farnam's Freehold."

CuriousHistorian · February 15th, 2012, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Moishe3rd

Yes. It was a different world. I believe I received my first real sex education from "Farnam's Freehold."

What? That to be really satisfying sex has to be in a crowded air raid shelter during a nuclear attack, with your son's wife?

Hope that didn't get you into trouble later on.

SirOrmondeWinter · February 28th, 2012, 06:44 AM

Just watched the third film last night, at last we have the power armour and Johnny Rico is back. The religion side of things was a bit unexpected and if anything the federation seems to have slid further into facism. But they are fighting a winner takes all war, in it for the species so to speak.

Moishe3rd · February 28th, 2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SirOrmondeWinter

Just watched the third film last night, at last we have the power armour and Johnny Rico is back. The religion side of things was a bit unexpected and if anything the federation seems to have slid further into facism. But they are fighting a winner takes all war, in it for the species so to speak.

There was more than one film?

**Ancientgeezer** · February 28th, 2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SirOrmondeWinter

Just watched the third film last night, at last we have the power armour and Johnny Rico is back. The religion side of things was a bit unexpected and if anything the federation seems to have slid further into facism. But they are fighting a winner takes all war, in it for the species so to speak.

It was so gripping that I fell asleep ten minutes in.