Heinlein, Starship Troopers - Page 2 - Historum

**Charlie Bravo** · February 27th, 2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by okamido

That is why I am thinking that service doesn't have to be to the military alone. There are always ways to serve the greater good. One thing I did like about the current Presedential administration was the idea of public service:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Natio...nFactSheet.pdf

What ever happened to that?

Another thing I found interesting about federal service in ST was that members of the federal services couldn't vote. Only veterans could vote, meaning that those career officers would spend most of their lives without ever participating in the right of franchise. A Sky Marshal, for instance, would spend most of his or her life with the same restrictions as to the right of participation in govt as a common civilian.

**okamido** · February 27th, 2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Bravo

What ever happened to that?

Another thing I found interesting about federal service in ST was that members of the federal services couldn't vote. Only veterans could vote, meaning that those career officers would spend most of their lives without ever participating in the right of franchise. A Sky Marshal, for instance, would spend most of his or her life with the same restrictions as to the right of participation in govt as a common civilian.

I forgot that. It says something about the good of the individual versus the good of the State.

**tjadams** · February 27th, 2011, 12:46 PM

I liked the movie.

**Charlie Bravo** · February 27th, 2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by okamido

I forgot that. It says something about the good of the individual versus the good of the State.

It does, indeed. But, something to think about, it would also seem to indicate that the bulk of the voting bloc would naturally be composed of veterans of the lowest ranks of federal service, and with the shortest careers. In Heinlien's world that seemed to work out fine but I wonder how that would actually play out in reality.

**Charlie Bravo** · February 27th, 2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tjadams

I liked the movie.

Nothing like the book.

**okamido** · February 27th, 2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Bravo

It does, indeed. But, something to think about, it would also seem to indicate that the bulk of the voting bloc would naturally be composed of veterans of the lowest ranks of federal service, and with the shortest careers. In Heinlien's world that seemed to work out fine but I wonder how that would actually play out in reality.

I would like to think that it was a notch above what we currently experience where individuals without any stake(outside of entitlements), are allowed to vote.

**OpanaPointer** · February 27th, 2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Bravo

Nothing like the book.

Not even Cap Troopers. They could have done something interesting with that, but they just had grunts with slug-throwers.

**tjadams** · February 27th, 2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Bravo

Nothing like the book.

I guess I just enjoyed seeing Denise Richards

**okamido** · February 27th, 2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tjadams

I liked the movie.

Definately read the book TJ. I enjoyed the film as well but you have to look at it completely removed from the source material, otherwise you come away very unhappy. As Sci-Fi action fun, it is great. As what Heinlein intended, it makes me cry.

**tjadams** · February 27th, 2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by okamido

Definately read the book TJ.

For all my readings, I've only read two novels in my entire life. My brain just isn't wired to read fiction.