Sartre, Nausea - Page 3 - Historum

McGrunt · January 20th, 2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BRIAN GOWER

Anyone who has taken LSD can easily relate to Nausea.

Not worth the effort eh ? You know thats advice I will take, haven't read The Rebel in years .

wittgenstein · January 20th, 2013, 03:23 PM

What I got from "Nausea " is that existence precedes essense. When Roquentin experiences reality without the catagories of predicates,universals,reality is seen as a mush that creates nausea. In many ways similar to vertigo. I think of it as premature enlightenment (all is one,etc).

**BRIAN GOWER** · January 20th, 2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by McGrunt

Not worth the effort eh ? You know thats advice I will take, haven't read The Rebel in years .

I still think it's worth reading just for the perspective.

**BRIAN GOWER** · January 20th, 2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wittgenstein

What I got from "Nausea " is that existence precedes essense. When Roquentin experiences reality without the catagories of predicates,universals,reality is seen as a mush that creates nausea. In many ways similar to vertigo. I think of it as premature enlightenment (all is one,etc).

Sums it up perfectly.

**Sicknero** · January 21st, 2013, 01:16 AM

Never got around to reading this, just downloading it now. I quite like Satre's idea of bad faith and existentialism as a reaction to absolute idealism.

**Patito de Hule** · February 1st, 2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BRIAN GOWER

I still think it's worth reading just for the perspective.

When I read, it is often to try to understand the author's perspective. I got more out of reading Camus' critique of the novel than the novel itself, and have paraphrased his first two sentences many times in critiquing a novel that overdoes the "lecturing."

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A novel is never anything but a philosophy expressed in images. And in a good novel the philosophy has disappeared into the images. But the philosophy need only spill over into the characters and action for it to stick out like a sore thumb, the plot to lose its authenticity, and the novel its life.

**BRIAN GOWER** · February 1st, 2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Patito de Hule

When I read, it is often to try to understand the author's perspective. I got more out of reading Camus' critique of the novel than the novel itself, and have paraphrased his first two sentences many times in critiquing a novel that overdoes the "lecturing."

Thank you: Yes...I see what you are saying but Sartre, for me, is convincing in conveying the awful strangeness of existence. LSD does help to understand Nausea but not recommended even for philosophical let alone mystical insight

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DS1967 · February 1st, 2013, 11:04 AM

You could always switch over to Friedrich Nietzsche

**Patito de Hule** · February 1st, 2013, 11:33 AM

Yes, Nietzsche is probably better than LSD, but I've never tried either. Nihilism just doesn't do anything for me.

As I recollect, Nietzche enjoyed a resurgence of popularity at the same time as LSD made it's public appearance. He is surely one of the most misquoted (or quoted out of context) philosopher in the canon.

A resurgence of popularity apparently isn't the only thing Nietzsche "enjoyed" since, as I understand, he went mad and died from syphilis.

DS1967 · February 1st, 2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Patito de Hule

Yes, Nietzsche is probably better than LSD, but I've never tried either. Nihilism just doesn't do anything for me.

As I recollect, Nietzche enjoyed a resurgence of popularity at the same time as LSD made it's public appearance. He is surely one of the most misquoted (or quoted out of context) philosopher in the canon.

A resurgence of popularity apparently isn't the only thing Nietzsche "enjoyed" since, as I understand, he went mad and died from syphilis.

Yeah the Nazis loved to claim Him