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Old March 19th, 2016, 09:44 AM   #1
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Andrew Roberts is a great historian


yes, he does have a right wing bias to some extent..

but his biography on "Napoleon: A Life" is incredibly well done, one of the best Napoleon books i have ever read
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I'm actually having a fair bit of trouble getting into his Napoleon book but that may be because I'm not liking the person of Napoleon all that much rather then any flaw on his part.
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I'm actually having a fair bit of trouble getting into his Napoleon book but that may be because I'm not liking the person of Napoleon all that much rather then any flaw on his part.
yeah...Roberts does try to present a sort of apologetic stance towards Napoleon

however I can't deny the historical research

it's almost similar to Niall Ferguson, he is a top tier history yet has a conservative bent too that can get obnoxious

his Kissinger biography is extremely detailed though
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yeah...Roberts does try to present a sort of apologetic stance towards Napoleon

however I can't deny the historical research

it's almost similar to Niall Ferguson, he is a top tier history yet has a conservative bent too that can get obnoxious

his Kissinger biography is extremely detailed though
Oh I don't mind that. Its not Napoleon's achievements or legacy that I dislike. I have a mostly positive opinion of those. Its Napoleon's personality that doesn't sit very well with me. Whenever Roberts(Or most others) quotes him Napoleon always comes off as arrogant, haughty and cynical.
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Oh I don't mind that. Its not Napoleon's achievements or legacy that I dislike. I have a mostly positive opinion of those. Its Napoleon's personality that doesn't sit very well with me. Whenever Roberts(Or most others) quotes him Napoleon always comes off as arrogant, haughty and cynical.
I mean he was a french officer
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Oh I don't mind that. Its not Napoleon's achievements or legacy that I dislike. I have a mostly positive opinion of those. Its Napoleon's personality that doesn't sit very well with me. Whenever Roberts(Or most others) quotes him Napoleon always comes off as arrogant, haughty and cynical.
Isnt that the case with most statesmen and 'great men' of history? I think you need a certain amount of arrogance and haughtyness to get that far in the first place.
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That being said Roberts is indeed a solid historian who isnt afraid to take a more apologetic stance towards Napoleon. Nonetheless I find even his case analysis of the Jaffa Massacre and the Enghien Affaire to be rather solid and agreeable.
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If you have heard of Michael Adams, and his Napoleon and Russia, I would actually say his apologia is a bit worse at some points.
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If you have heard of Michael Adams, and his Napoleon and Russia, I would actually say his apologia is a bit worse at some points.
No, I have not. Is he apologetic towards Napoleon or the Russians?
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No, I have not. Is he apologetic towards Napoleon or the Russians?
Definitely Napoleon. He almost always tends to defend Napoleon and criticize the Russian figures, usually unfairly, imo.

You tend to have historians like Lieven, who aren't especially critical of either side. Ones like Zamoyski, who are heavily critical of both sides, Ones like Roberts, who are high on praise for one side, but don't speak that much about the others. Then, and the worst cases, you have ones like Adams who are overly-defensive of one side, and overly-critical of the opposing side.

Adams is informative, but I find him partial and, as a result, unreliable.
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