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Old July 16th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #11

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Someone told me that the definitive book on A-27 was originally self-published, but became so popular that a traditional publisher took it up and made it a best seller. I think it may have been the fellow we were going to use as a guide/driver following the A-27 from Bath to Canterbury. I think we ordered a copy, but the fact that it never arrived got lost in the dust raised by the Cancer Cancellation of the Decade.
It seems that no matter how obscure the subject occasionally it resonates with a surprising number of people and becomes a publishing success. I often wonder how you are coping and your wife Natalie is feeling while undergoing the chemo and I hope she is in good spirits... and I shall be happy to buy you the A27 book were you to take up your vacation once more by touring our British Isles.

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One hopes, for without hope we can only await the inevitable. Reason cautions us, but still hope will linger.

Natalie had her fifth Chem session our of six a week ago. Each Chemo session is a day's infusion followed by 21 days for the magic to happen and the patient has a chance to recover. Her hair fell out as expected, but while it hurt her girlish nature there was no pain or discomfort involved. She has been fortunate and not suffered as badly from nausea or digestive problems. The blood markers have steadily fallen, and that's very good. This past week has been the worst so far with neuropathy setting her palms and feet on fire. She has been getting some relief and sleeps better with a bit of cannibals. In September there will be surgery, and after a brief recovery period, she'll begin another six months of Chemo. The hope is that the second round of Chemo will keep her in remittance for at least a few years. For now, we just drift and wait. There isn't anything else to do.

Once Natalie gets a clean bill of health, we hope (there's that word again) to make a new plan for visiting Ireland and the UK. Not knowing what our physical capabilities and financial situation will be then (2107? 2018?), no solid plan is possible. Probably instead of the better part of a month, and some expensive lodging, we'll have to make do with much less. Natalie will insist on a week minimum in Ireland, so which do I cut the Scottish leg, or visit only southern England. The idea of having a guide/driver to set us free from the too often traveled byways will be scrapped, and our use of Britrail might be reduced. We could spend a week in London, but I would rather get away from the tourist attractions to meet and experience what England has become. Where better than the second leg of our previous trip? Too early to say what we might need to plan for. How good will my own health be at 77?

I really would like a copy of the A-27 book, but save your money for something more useful. Take the wife to a nice dinner, and enjoy while you can. Its later than you think.
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David K has direct experience, and I'm sure his advice will help you sell some books. Notice that his books is narrowly focused, and thus can provide a lot of specialist information that his niche market might not find elsewhere. David seems to have self-published in the traditional manner, and because of that marketing is tougher and his out-of-pocket expenses will be higher than publishing on an Internet site.

David, how many copies were in the first printing, and have your sales now caught up with your overhead? What price is the book selling for? How does this compare with the costs and sales of your previous book?
The book suggested retail list price is $29.95. It is much more detailed than the 2012 book, which I co-authored and had much less to do with how it was set up. The 2012 book (which went into a second edition and several printings) list price was $19.95. They are both listed for sale here: Old missions

Printing cost (for the older book) was about $5. So, a $20 list book has a wholesale price of $10 (what the book dealer pays). Book dealer makes $10 and the publisher (us) makes $5. When you have multiple authors, that $5 gets divided between them. Not a lot of income from book sales. You have to love doing it.

As for my new 2016 book...

We made a little more than 220 copies in the first printing. The first orders for my new book (two orders totaling 80 books) covered the cost of the printing. So, the book got off to a good start. We had sold about 150 (~70 in stock) when Sunbelt asked for 100 copies to warehouse once they added it to their inventory online. We had another 220 books made (by a different printer at a lower cost than the first). To cover printing costs (as Sunbelt pays for books sold after they are sold, twice a year) for the second printing we solicited a local Mexican Auto insurance company to place an ad on the book's last (blank) page. I write Baja Travel Adventure articles for this company's on-line newsletter. That ad paid the cost of printing the books. So, everything has been + +!

Here are my travel and history articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Here is my book listed on the Sunbelt site: Sunbelt Publications : Baja California, Land of Missions

The book is also sold on Amazon, from Sunbelt. I have two distributors locally in San Diego County (Discover Baja Travel Club and Mission San Luis Rey Gift Shop) set up before I contracted with Sunbelt to distribute the book.
It is also for sale in Baja California, Mexico at Baja Cactus Motel in El Rosario and the Museum at Bahia de los Angeles. More distributors will be added.

Writing articles, posting on Internet forums, self-publishing in the past, providing correct and accurate information is the key to getting recognition and sales. Oh, did I mention that I made a Facebook page for the books? http://facebook.com/oldmissions
You just need to market and network as much as you can to sell your book.
Only a small % will buy, so the more people you reach, the more books you will sell.

The PowerPoint lecture I gave last Thursday was a success in that we had a full room and lots of praise for my 'performance' (substance, slides, talk). Of the 50 people who were there, you have many couples (ie. 25 households), and you may sell to about 50% of each home represented... We sold 13 books, and that was good. Some will buy later... some will tell others about the book... future sales...
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So you are the co-author of a book that came highly recommended to me. How about a signed copy with a fine sentiment? I think I can squeeze 30 bucks from the budget for that. Of course, if its too much trouble I'll order a copy in the Fall.

What a coincidence. The plan for our visit evolved as I researched various alternatives to cram the most into only two days. Ludicrous, but over time the plan evolved into stops generally within easy reach of the A-27. We first planned to rent a car and drive ourselves from Bath to Canterbury. Our kids went ballistic and weren't shy about telling us it was too risky for us old foggies. Bosh! We reconsidered, and decided to hire a certified guide/driver for those two days. That almost broke the budget, but I had set aside some reserves. The guide was asked for his in-put, and we ended up incorporating many of his suggestions. At one point, he asked why we had chosen A-27, was it because of this popular book? I had never heard of the book, but told Natalie to order a copy from Amazon (I think). A few weeks before our departure, Natalie was diagnosed and the dust still hasn't settled.

I review my post ... writing IS editing. Oh how befuddled I've become. I guess I just had our trip and the A-27 in my mind. Never mind.

The information you've posted is probably going to help the OP. I've read his first chapter, and was impressed with his use of the language, and potential scholar. He is 18, a recent High School graduate accepted by his first choice college. His book is already available at Amazon. A survey of world history in 200 pages is optimistic, but may find a market if the price is right.

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So you are the co-author of a book that came highly recommended to me. How about a signed copy with a fine sentiment? I think I can squeeze 30 bucks from the budget for that. Of course, if its too much trouble I'll order a copy in the Fall. ...
What book came highly recommended (and from who)?

I am the only author of 'Baja California Land of Missions' (2016).
I was a co-author for 'The Old Missions of Baja & Alta California' (2012).
See both books here: Old missions

Not sure I follow your question? Books are sent out within 48 hours of your order from us (M&E BOOKS). I will sign your copy if you like. No trouble. What happens in the fall? Let me know if you order a book... and I will alert my publishing partner to not send it and instead when I see the PayPal order for New Mexico, I will send a signed copy.
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Ah, ye didn't read to the end of my post above. Brian Gower and I got off point a wee bit earlier. The wife and I had an elaborate visit to Ireland and the UK planned for May. She was diagnosed with Cancer, and the trip had to be dropped. One of the most important elements of our visit was to be two day on the road between Bath and Canterbury. The road we would mostly follow is designated "A-27". Our guide recommended a travel book focused entirely on our planned route. I went away to take care of some business, but the A-27 was on my mind. If we can reschedule our visit in 2017, or 18, the A-27 route would still contain the greatest return on our reduced finances. If we can pull it off, the more I know about the A-27 and its attractions, the better the plan will be.

Then you posted responding to my questions designed mostly to help the OP.

Somehow I got the notion that you were the co-author of the book on the A-27, and completely failed to see your post dealt strictly with your book on Bajha Missions. I was befuddled and somewhere in orbit around the Andromeda Galaxy. The result was a bit of surrealism. I actually did catch my failure to be properly responsive, and wrote to clear up the misunderstanding. I thought you might be amused, but not confused. I'm sorry for the confusion, but confusion reigns today.

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No, I think I got it but it is better to ask and be sure than to presume and be wrong, yes?

Have you read my recently added to thread here on Historum about the missions. I am holding my new book at Mission San Fernando in the last reply: Baja California Spanish Mission's Founding Dates
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Someone told me that the definitive book on A-27 was originally self-published, but became so popular that a traditional publisher took it up and made it a best seller. I think it may have been the fellow we were going to use as a guide/driver following the A-27 from Bath to Canterbury. I think we ordered a copy, but the fact that it never arrived got lost in the dust raised by the Cancer Cancellation of the Decade.
What is the A-27, a highway?
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One hopes, for without hope we can only await the inevitable. Reason cautions us, but still hope will linger.

Natalie had her fifth Chem session our of six a week ago. Each Chemo session is a day's infusion followed by 21 days for the magic to happen and the patient has a chance to recover. Her hair fell out as expected, but while it hurt her girlish nature there was no pain or discomfort involved. She has been fortunate and not suffered as badly from nausea or digestive problems. The blood markers have steadily fallen, and that's very good. This past week has been the worst so far with neuropathy setting her palms and feet on fire. She has been getting some relief and sleeps better with a bit of cannibals. In September there will be surgery, and after a brief recovery period, she'll begin another six months of Chemo. The hope is that the second round of Chemo will keep her in remittance for at least a few years. For now, we just drift and wait. There isn't anything else to do.

Once Natalie gets a clean bill of health, we hope (there's that word again) to make a new plan for visiting Ireland and the UK. Not knowing what our physical capabilities and financial situation will be then (2107? 2018?), no solid plan is possible. Probably instead of the better part of a month, and some expensive lodging, we'll have to make do with much less. Natalie will insist on a week minimum in Ireland, so which do I cut the Scottish leg, or visit only southern England. The idea of having a guide/driver to set us free from the too often traveled byways will be scrapped, and our use of Britrail might be reduced. We could spend a week in London, but I would rather get away from the tourist attractions to meet and experience what England has become. Where better than the second leg of our previous trip? Too early to say what we might need to plan for. How good will my own health be at 77?

I really would like a copy of the A-27 book, but save your money for something more useful. Take the wife to a nice dinner, and enjoy while you can. Its later than you think.
Thank you for that information on your wife Mr Asherman which I feel is in the main encouraging. With regard to your re-scheduled tour beginning in Ireland, why not slip over from Ulster to Scotland for a day or two which would at least give you a taste of the place, before moving down or across to England. Also consider the options of public transport to save on main journeys, although I'll still be happy to buy you that book on the A27!
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