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Old December 19th, 2012, 04:05 AM   #21

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Yes! You can't guess how much this delights me - it's not the best work, and we certainly need a new overview, but it's still reliable and probably the only single text one can even find. I'm mostly just pleased about anyone at all displaying any sort of interesting in something that is incredibly overlooked. Marvellous (with some apologies for getting carried away).
once the Italian wars got rolling it became very interesting

i'm impressed enough with some of the monarchs such as Louis XII and Francis I so far yet i do wonder why they keep trying at Italy as it always seems to end bad for them no matter what early successes, and all for what? to lord over a bunch of discontented italians who hate their guts!
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once the Italian wars got rolling it became very interesting

i'm impressed enough with some of the monarchs such as Louis XII and Francis I so far yet i do wonder why they keep trying at Italy as it always seems to end bad for them no matter what early successes, and all for what? to lord over a bunch of discontented italians who hate their guts!
In the first and third instances (Charles VIII and Francis I), crusading zeal bolstered by the interests of those numerous parties whispering encouragements in their ears (Brisconnet, Sforza, De Vesc et al.). In the second instance (Louis XII), it was simply to make good on his claim to throne of Milan (acquired through marriage connections to the houses of Orleans and Visconti, iirc). I'm not really sure that any of the French kings gave their Italian 'subjects' much thought.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 10:18 AM   #23

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I'm reading Hops and Glory, One Man's Search for the Beer that built the british Empire by Pete Brown. It's about Indian Pale Ale, which was brewed especially for export to India in the days of the Raj. Pete Brown sets out to retrace the journey taken by the ships carrying the ale to India in the days before the Suez Canal was built. It's quite amusing.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 04:35 AM   #24
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Currently reading Oryx and Crake: Margaret Atwood: 9780385721677: Amazon.com: Books.

It is a futuristic dystopian novel, but at several points I am reminded of Theodore Dreiser's Cowperwood Trilogy, of incidents in Ida Tarbell's History of Standard Oil. Seems like fear of laissez faire capitalism is alive and healthy, and maybe that's a good thing.

How is Atwood? I have been encouraged many times to try reading her, but alas have not had the time. Is she worth making time for?

As for what I am reading. I am currently enjoying John Julius Norwich's Byzantium Pt 1. Probably the best over-view of the East Roman Empire I have read so far, and opens up other areas of interest to research further...

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Old December 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM   #25
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Not historical, but I've just orderd the following books:

Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov

Walden by Henry David Thoreau

The Road by Cormac McCarthy
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 04:20 PM   #26

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Hope and Heartache (A Social History of Wales and the Welsh, 1776 - 1871) 2005 by Russell Davies, which is highly detailed and interesting but, as the title suggests, ultimately depressing, and I'm only half way through! Not a book at bed time.
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Not historical, but I've just orderd the following books:

Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
I think I never get over Lolita - the work, of course, not the girl. There are few breathtaking openings, and it's one of them, even when translated into another language (well, I especially mean the French, although the English is to my ears the superior):

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Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta.
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Lolita, lumière de ma vie, feu de mes reins. Mon péché, mon âme. Lo-lii-ta : le bout de la langue fait trois petits pas le long du palais pour taper, à trois reprises, contre les dents. Lo. Lii. Ta. [Folio translation]
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 06:28 PM   #28

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Just finished No Easy Day.

Read several books about the Bin Ladens before that, however No Easy Day puts that issue completely to rest.

The moral of that story is that Islamic fanaticism from an early age combined with millions in wealth inherited from a multimillionaire father equals terrorism of a new order of magnitude. Money is therefore more dangerous to an insane mind than are guns.

Stopped by the bookstore to see what they have in the new books section, and there was not much of interest.

Have not seen much of note on PBS worth reading either. Still waiting.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 07:00 PM   #29

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The pelopeonesian war by donald kagan.

Can't figure out how to set up that link with the picture though
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[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Commander-Chief-Roosevelt-Lieutenants-Bluejacket/dp/1591144558/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1356239546&sr=8-8&keywords=commander+in+chief"]Commander in Chief: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, His Lieutenants, and Their War (Bluejacket Books): Eric Larrabee: 9781591144557: Amazon.com: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RY0Q2773L.@@AMEPARAM@@51RY0Q2773L[/ame]

Pretty nifty book, well written... I'm pre-reading it for next semester, "Great Personalities in WWII". Each chapter is about a different person, so it doesn't feel quite as big as it really is (700+ pages!). Right now I'm on MacArthur.
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