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Old January 23rd, 2013, 12:49 AM   #11
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Not at all, however, when a historian writes fiction which deviates quite extensively from what is known about a subject, but allows the use of the fact that he/she is 'a historian' in the publicity material for the novel, then that can lead to a blurring of the differences between historical fact and historical fiction in the eyes of some readers.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 01:09 AM   #12

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I have many of Alison Weirs Tudor books and on the whole have liked them. See is very opinionated in some of her books, which goes badly if you dont agree with her view. Isabella She Wolf of France was an example of this.
I enjoyed her book on the fall of Anne Boleyn and hopefully this new book will be good, however i believe there is not allot known about Mary Boleyn - the great whore! - apparently.
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Not at all, however, when a historian writes fiction which deviates quite extensively from what is known about a subject, but allows the use of the fact that he/she is 'a historian' in the publicity material for the novel, then that can lead to a blurring of the differences between historical fact and historical fiction in the eyes of some readers.
That's hardly the author's fault if the reader blurs the difference between her non-fiction and fiction. Apart from using a pen name for her novels so it's not as obvious it's the same author, I'm not sure what an author could do to prevent that. If you think she should use a pen name, fair enough, but being an author of both fiction and non-fiction is hardly a reason to discredit her biographies.
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That's hardly the author's fault if the reader blurs the difference between her non-fiction and fiction.
It depends if the author uses his or her 'reputation' in one field, to promote work in another field, perhaps deliberately creating in the mind of the readership that the fictional work is as thoroughly researched as the factual work.
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Like I say - if you think she should have used a separate pen name, fair enough. But personally, I think it's the reader's fault if they confuse fiction and non-fiction. On that we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Well, years ago, there was a series on UK TV (Coronation Street - still going too) where one of the characters was getting 'married' (Elsie Tanner) and some of the viewers sent her 'wedding gifts', so some people have great difficulty in distinguishing fact from fiction.
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Well, years ago, there was a series on UK TV (Coronation Street - still going too) where one of the characters was getting 'married' (Elsie Tanner) and some of the viewers sent her 'wedding gifts', so some people have great difficulty in distinguishing fact from fiction.
I know they do - I'm not disputing that some people mistake fiction for fact because as I already pointed out in my first post, some people mistake fact for fiction too. My point is that you aren't blaming the makers or actors of Coronation Street for the misunderstanding of a few idiots, are you? So why blame the author?
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In this particular case, I do blame Alison Weir because she always mentions she is a 'historian' in the publicity material for her fiction books.

By the way, what is the definition of 'historian'.
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Well, years ago, there was a series on UK TV (Coronation Street - still going too) where one of the characters was getting 'married' (Elsie Tanner) and some of the viewers sent her 'wedding gifts', so some people have great difficulty in distinguishing fact from fiction.
That happens all the time. Actors who play bad characters in soaps get attacked in shops when irate viewers spot them. It is rather scary.
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There is a simple way around the problem, if in fact the problem exists at all. Ian Mortimer publishes fiction under the name James Forrester. I suppose he's lucky he's got two middle names that sounds like another person!

Most books are clearly labelled fiction or non-fiction on the back cover, I'm not sure it's really a problem at all.
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