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Old February 7th, 2016, 03:42 AM   #1
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Kievan Rus, late 10th century. After the death of his father, the young Viking prince Vladimir of Novgorod is forced into exile across the frozen sea.

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I think this movie gonna be great. Check out this traler!
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Old February 7th, 2016, 04:32 PM   #2

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I seen this trailer on a Polish site, looks very good! Of course already ppl commented "oh this will be good, let's see the "Russian version" of Kievan Rus.' We should keep n mind, this will not be a documentary, it will more than likely have its share of exaggerations. But it definitely looks good!
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looks interesting! i just got hooked into vikings after i started the tv series!
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Kievan Rus, late 10th century. After the death of his father, the young Viking prince Vladimir of Novgorod is forced into exile across the frozen sea.



I think this movie gonna be great. Check out this traler!
p.s. How do I post video?
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Well, that movie is total disappointment.
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Well, that movie is total disappointment.
I have heard this. Looking carefully the scenes do look a little lame. The trailer looks quite impressive by flashing past us. The strong point is the great sound track by a top composer. I still goner try and get the English subtitle version.



This leaves "The Last Kingdom" as the best film media on the Viking theme in recent times.



Rune Temte's Ubba retains his position as the coolest film Viking ever!
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Old April 2nd, 2017, 11:03 AM   #7

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I liked Last Kingdom but it has a lot of historical inaccuracies. For example the main character uses a two handed sword, that was not used until at least 500 years after the setting of the series. Saxons are not familiar with the shield wall tactic in the series, when in real life they used them to the same extent that Vikings did. Also Saxons use rectangular shields when they used the same kind of shields that Vikings used. I don't know if these inaccuracies are only for making Saxons and Vikings more easily distinguishable, but I think they were unnecessary.
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I liked Last Kingdom but it has a lot of historical inaccuracies.
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For example the main character uses a two handed sword, that was not used until at least 500 years after the setting of the series.
Yes, he looks a bit like something out of "wizards and warriors". Got to please the young fans.
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Saxons are not familiar with the shield wall tactic in the series, when in real life they used them to the same extent that Vikings did.
In this particular case the "shield wall' is the Byzantine/Roman "foulkon". It was designed to give high protection against missile fire. On the downside it must have been tiring for the participants. An Irish reference claims Danes made heavy use of light javelins/darts.
It would require some training, but not beyond the capabilities of the more 'professional' Saxon or Viking troops.
However in the scene, no missile weapons are used, making the formation pointless. (maybe it would add to insurance indemnity?)
The formation is pictured on a plate from an Osprey publication. "Viking Hersir 793-1066 AD". It seems to be the Jomsvikings training. Since a few of these would have visited the Byzantines and seen it in use. And this was a "professional" troop. There is a good chance they duplicated the formation.
Of course this publication is such a ready reference, that film directors and reeenactors, would think....oh cool!
The conventional shieldwall was simply the interlocked shields of a single rank. And this formation could be very tight.
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Also Saxons use rectangular shields when they used the same kind of shields that Vikings used. I don't know if these inaccuracies are only for making Saxons and Vikings more easily distinguishable, but I think they were unnecessary.
Even more annoying is the naked planks. The original shields seem to have been constructed from a front and back rawhide. Which gave the shield most of its strength. Light weight Linden wood, a type of balsa wood was only used to give the shield rigidity.
Yes, generally both sides went to the same market for equipment. So from that perspective, they would have appeared similar.
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Also Saxons use rectangular shields when they used the same kind of shields that Vikings used. I don't know if these inaccuracies are only for making Saxons and Vikings more easily distinguishable, but I think they were unnecessary.
There is a Saxon reenactment group that uses weird rectangular shields.

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There is a Saxon reenactment group that uses weird rectangular shields.

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Is that actually a group? Not just a still from a bad show, or some CGI wargamer image?

Nice thing about it is that we can easily run some cables around the whole mess to contain them, then shrink-wrap for safe disposal.

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