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Old November 8th, 2017, 07:37 AM   #81

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It is still happening today. Look at Africa, Asia, everywhere.

Osama Bin Laden viewed his people/muslims oppresed by Westerners.

Actually while readig up on Brown, I found out this wasn't his first attack, he had helped in the Kansas wars killing pro-slavery people and raiding thier towns. He even set up a guerilla group to defend/hide escaped slaves.

So in my opinion, and others, he is a terrorist, and so I veiw you as supporting a terrorist.
Brown could be compared to modern day Americans, and modern day Iraqi and Syrian Arabs who are fighting against ISIL. I disagree with your above views on Brown. In fact during the US civil war many white Christian Catholics and Protestants on the Union side marched to the pro John Brown song John Browns body. And perhaps to reassure you the great Italian leader Giuseppe Garabaldi provided his support for Christianity and one of its adherents, John Brown of all people...in this Letter to President Lincoln,

August 6, 1863

In this letter written on August 6, 1863, Giuseppe Garibaldi, the famed military organizer who eventually aided the uniting of the various Italian regions under a single king, offers superlative praise to Abraham Lincoln for his issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation. The previous year, Lincoln had offered Garibaldi a Major General’s commission to fight for the Union Army in the Civil War, but Garibaldi had refused, busy at the time leading an expedition toward Rome as part of the Italian Risorgimento. A New York infantry regiment, the 39th, was named the “Garibaldi Guard” in his honor.

In the midst of your titanic struggle, permit me, as another among the free children of Columbus, to send you a word of greeting and admiration for the great work you have begun. Posterity will call you the great emancipator, a more enviable title than any crown could be, and greater than any merely mundane treasure. You are a true heir of the teaching given us by Christ and by John Brown. If an entire race of human beings, subjugated into slavery by human egoism, has been restored to human dignity, to civilization and human love, this is by your doing and at the price of the most noble lives in America.

It is America, the same country which taught liberty to our forefathers, which now opens another solemn epoch of human progress. And while your tremendous courage astonishes the world, we are sadly reminded how this old Europe, which also can boast a great cause of liberty to fight for, has not found the mind or heart to equal you.
-Giuseppe Garibaldi

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Old November 21st, 2017, 10:11 PM   #82

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It's a strange world we live in. People will demonize John Brown, and then turn around and try to make Genghis Khan seem reasonable.

Hollywood will never make a movie about John Brown because he was a religious Christian. They don't want anyone thinking about the religious people who hated slavery. I'm surprised the film Amazing Grace was made.

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Old November 25th, 2017, 08:49 AM   #83

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Perhaps no movie, but Russel Banks wrote a very good book-


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Old February 24th, 2018, 12:44 PM   #84
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John Brown, the hero

I am very grateful for the John Brown Revolt. I think he was an Angel in disguise. I do not feel that he was mentally ill at all. He felt strong about the wrongs of Slavery and acted upon his belief. As an African American that still finds it hard to believe that people actually kidnapped people and placed them into bondage, I am very grateful for John Brown and others like him. Any attempt at helping to end slavery was better than no help.
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