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Old January 5th, 2017, 02:42 PM   #21

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I was skeptical about Richard Madden but he's actually been really good in this role.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 06:32 AM   #22

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Yes, he is a great Cosimo. But truth be told I wouldn't object even if he was a terrible actor.
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I like the main character, Madden as Cosimo de Medici. I had to stop watching at the scene in Rome where he meets Brunelleschi. I don't know what happens after they walk through the workshop, but we are given hints of the brilliant material fruition of that meeting. As we know Brunelleschi won the commission to design the Cathedral of Florence's famous dome, built in the 1420s under the patronage of Cosimo.
After watching the next few episodes, I now believe it was Donatello, not Brunelleschi, that was giving Cosimo a tour of the workshop.
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Yes, he is a great Cosimo. But truth be told I wouldn't object even if he was a terrible actor.
So true... he's very easy on the eyes.
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What events are you all looking forward to seeing on screen in this show? I look forward to the skirmishes between Milan and Florence (especially Anghiari), the Council of Florence (Bessarion), the completion of the dome and - though this sounds shallow - I look forward to seeing if they cast his Circassian mistress Maddalena, who bore him his only illegitimate son, Carlo.
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I just finished the episode (5 or 6?) and they really took a liberty having Contessina be the hero of the exile sentence. I couldn't help but cheer her on while she disrupted the signorial meeting by charging in on a horse to demand exile instead of death. (Despite this oddity, I like her character in the show). In reality it was the guard in charge of his cell ; he was bribed, allowing the flow of messages between Cosimo and his allies. Those allies, incidentally, consisted of the states of Ferrara and Venice, not to mention the masses of builders, tradesmen, craftsmen, merchants, and guildsmen who considered the Medici their party. He had popular support as well as 'royal' support, so Albizzi was actually quite lucky in securing a sentence of exile.

It's very entertaining!
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Medici was pretty awesome. It was a nice exploration of politics (often Machiavellian) and intrigue against a backdrop of art and romance in Renaissance Florence.

Also, the theme song was great. Very powerful.
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I'm going to be a thread heretic and hate the series.

It isn't on grounds of accuracy it is on grounds that it is boring to me. It lacks a plot and just about every other major investment involving action (including Game of Thrones) has vastly superior combat/action scenes.

The plot is wonderful perfect Cosimo who is uniquely competent/great at everything vs Evil horrible incompetent Albizzi who is a reactionary and oh sooo evil he will kill in a church he tears down the economy of his people by going back to feudalism etc.

To me what is amazing is exactly how much more exciting the history is something actually based on the history would have been much more exciting.

If you went medieval gore combined with intrigues and a story that could do something besides acting as a sleeping pill go with either Rome (yes classical but the same thing) or The Tudors, or Game of Thrones. I just can't think of a television niche Medici fills that it isn't bad at compared to the competition.

Full disclosure-I didn't manage to finish the entire series; after I figured out it was the absolutely perfect Cosimo vs the absolutely evil Albizzi with everyone in his family being inferior at everything to him I was just looking forward to and rooting for when the next bit of gore would come on screen. For me a nice setting like Renaissance Florence does not make up for mediocrity.
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Full disclosure-I didn't manage to finish the entire series; after I figured out it was the absolutely perfect Cosimo vs the absolutely evil Albizzi with everyone in his family being inferior at everything to him I was just looking forward to and rooting for when the next bit of gore would come on screen. For me a nice setting like Renaissance Florence does not make up for mediocrity.
I didn't really get the sense that either character was absolute in their moral corner. Albizzi, in particular, I felt to have quite a great deal of depth, even if only implied. I had sympathy for him, for the betrayals he thought he had suffered, for the changing times that left him almost alienated. That in his youth and the humiliation of his father, whom he evidently cared a great deal about (or at least their honour and reputation), warped him. I think Albizzi was highly nuanced and, although he was, of course, the antagonist, so he was far from good.

Cosimo was pretty good, I'll admit. He wanted, for the most part, to avoid a war or major conflict and he was torn over acts of violence but there was more to him than that. In terms of his personal life, he was not great. He was unfaithful and ungrateful to his wife and, in the mindset of a contemporary Florentine, his attitudes towards art or homosexuals were not so much of respect tolerance but frowned upon.
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