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October 22nd, 2017, 03:39 AM
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#12 | Lecturer
Joined: Apr 2013 From: Romania Posts: 447 |
I just found out that polish television had too a spy tv series in the 1960s called Stawka większa niż życie (A stake larger than life) in which the main character fights against Nazi Germany in WW2.
It seems that everybody prefered to fight Nazi Germany than americans.    | |
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November 22nd, 2017, 10:31 AM
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#13 | Historian
Joined: Apr 2017 From: Las Vegas, NV USA Posts: 1,606 |
Soviet films tended to be more motivational. |
Last edited by stevev; November 22nd, 2017 at 10:40 AM.
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November 22nd, 2017, 04:15 PM
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#14 | Historian
Joined: Feb 2013 From: Second City Posts: 1,283 |
The name's Stierlitz. Otto von Stierlitz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stierlitz
Star of print and picture show, Vsevelod Vladimirovich Vladimirov, alias Maxim Maximovich Isaуev, code name "Stierlitz", was quite the rage in Soviet popular culture, and has retained quite a lot of popularity in today's Russia, as one can read here: Was the Soviet James Bond Vladimir Putin's role model? - BBC News
Fourteen novels written by Yulian Semyonov between 1963 and 1988, six movies between 1967 and 1980, with a seventh in 2009, on top of the twelve-part 1972 television series Seventeen Moments of Spring being a hallmark of Soviet spy cinema.
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November 22nd, 2017, 06:39 PM
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#15 | Citizen
Joined: Jan 2014 From: LV-426 Posts: 2,459 | Quote:
Originally Posted by TupSum The russian James Bond fought the nazis, his name was Stierlitz  | | |
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November 22nd, 2017, 11:57 PM
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#16 | Historian
Joined: Sep 2012 From: Bulgaria Posts: 2,969 |
The difference between these two is obvious. Bond is cold war agent. He captures red agents, skins them alive and then eats the bastards (has sexual intercourse with female ones before skinning process). Better dead and red. Stierlitz character is WWII agent, a very hot war & soviets were allies to Great Britain back then.
EDIT: There is no second world's counterpart of James Bond.
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Last edited by At Each Kilometer; November 23rd, 2017 at 12:06 AM.
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November 23rd, 2017, 12:20 AM
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#17 | Historian
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,574 | Quote:
Originally Posted by At Each Kilometer The difference between these two is obvious. Bond is cold war agent. He captures red agents, skins them alive and then eats the bastards (has sexual intercourse with female ones before skinning process). Better dead and red. Stierlitz character is WWII agent, a very hot war & soviets were allies to Great Britain back then.
EDIT: There is no second world's counterpart of James Bond. | I agree. There was no soviet James Bond in the USSR cinematography.
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November 29th, 2017, 08:03 AM
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#18 | Citizen
Joined: Nov 2017 From: bg Posts: 2 |
Another chime in from bulgaria here.
We sorta had a James Bond type of character. And it was a pretty close parallel too. There were a couple of books and at least one movie. But it was way back in the 60s or the 70s, and I guess that genre didn't take off.
From memory, I think I rather liked the books, but I don't remember the movie; it was so long ago tho.
So, the bulgarian James Bond's name was Emil Boev.
He went on missions to the west, there were safe houses, guns, networks of agents, recruiting of agents, blackmailing, I think there were gadgets. But it wasn't so hyperbolic, and it was gloomy and darker overall. I think it was closer to Bourne in tone, without the superhuman stuff. Kinda like the earlier Bourne books.
Here's a link to the movie on IMDB: Nyama nishto po-hubavo ot loshoto vreme (1971) - IMDb - in translation it means: There's nothing better than the bad weather. - it's based on one of the books in the series
Here it is on youtube, but it's in bulgarian:
P.S.
I guess they made all the books into movies
The IMDB of the writer: Bogomil Raynov - IMDb
P.P.S.
a couple of more links http://www.bpb.de/gesellschaft/kultu...an-bad-weather https://www.goodreads.com/author/sho...Bogomil_Rainov - I guess there were translations into other languages, and the books were popular in the USSR too.
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Last edited by kln; November 29th, 2017 at 08:14 AM.
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November 29th, 2017, 10:22 AM
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#19 | Historian
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,574 | Quote:
Originally Posted by kln I guess they made all the books into movies | Once very popular author here - i've got all 4 volume collection of his works | |
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November 29th, 2017, 01:40 PM
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#20 | Historian
Joined: Aug 2015 From: Slovenia Posts: 2,915 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanianboy2013 We all know the James Bond british movies or american spy movies with western heroes defending "The Free World" from evil communist spies.
I wonder if the countries from communist block had spy movies with heroes that fought against the evil capitalists.
I only know that East Germany made some series called ''Das Unsichtbare Visier'' (1973-1979) about an est german spy that fought against american CIA and the West German secret services that wanted to destroy East Germany.
Did USSR,Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland,Czecoslovakia,Yugoslavia had James Bond style movies or tv series?
From my country,Romania, I only know about one movie:Sapte zile {Seven Days}(1973).  | Soviet movies were not so pulp and stupid than average Hollywood. I've seen lots from both productions and my conclusion is that Soviet production was more mature in average. Soviets were worse in action sequences but less black and white in scripts and were not explaining everything to a viewer with words. As I grow older I find depicting realism as more important than shiny effects.
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