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Old December 5th, 2017, 04:33 PM   #11

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Yeah, but in the movie you'd think they would add something more so the audience has something to root for.
Maybe they thought Tom Cruise was enough.

Could have been worse. Could have been Matt Damon.
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Old December 5th, 2017, 06:04 PM   #12

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Tom Cruise movies make money so there will continue to be made. Tom is supposed to be 5'8" but my bet is he is closer to 5'6". There were Ninjas. They showed up to assassinate Katsumoto. Cruise helped defend him.

I enjoyed the movie just to watch some of the villains die. Too bad Omura got to avoid suicide. Billy Connoly stole the show before he was killed off.

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Old December 5th, 2017, 11:16 PM   #13

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P.S. May be I remember wrong, but I haven't noted Ninjas in the movie.
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Old December 5th, 2017, 11:29 PM   #14

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Totally forgotten ... [it's evident that the movie didn't catch my attention so much].
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I cringed when I first saw the poster with Tom dressed up in samurai gear, but I ended up liking the film. Sure it's cheesy, but it has great acting, costumes and cinematography.

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I am reminded of something I read in Shogun many years ago. Tokugawa Ieyashi is written thinking that 20 or more Ninja often does not work. What usually works is ONE that slips in without anyone noticing and slips out again.

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The traditional values that the samurai were fighting for during the Satsuma Rebellion was basically the right for the samurai to be the bosses.
Their stipend for life promised by the Meiji Government (basically giving out free money to an already privileged group) wasn't enough for them?
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Their stipend for life promised by the Meiji Government (basically giving out free money to an already privileged group) wasn't enough for them?
Have you ever heard of priviledged bunch of people claiming they have enough power already?
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Their stipend for life promised by the Meiji Government (basically giving out free money to an already privileged group) wasn't enough for them?
Basically, it was because their lands were being taken. It was not so much the "samurai" but the feudal landowners of the Edo period who were rebelling and opposing to the government expropriating their property for industrialisation. The landowners being paid in money didn't make up for that loss.

Part of why this movie is so stupid is that it portrays the conflict as purely cultural, between pantheistic Buddhist warriors vs. evil Asian (dare I say "Mongoloid" given how racist this film is) modernisers, when it never was about that.
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Have you ever heard of priviledged bunch of people claiming they have enough power already?
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