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Old December 6th, 2010, 06:03 AM   #31

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But how else are men going to get the average woman to go along?
They don't, if a guy wants to see a war movie, he should see it with his mates and when it's finished, all they have to talk about is how great the SFX were, not be criticised by their significant other for how they never do anything romantic like the stars in the film did.
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They don't, if a guy wants to see a war movie, he should see it with his mates and when it's finished, all they have to talk about is how great the SFX were, not be criticised by their significant other for how they never do anything romantic like the stars in the film did.
I don't know how, but I talked my future wife into seeing Letters From Iwo Jima in theatres with me. Let's just say I'll never make that mistake again...
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Pearl Harbor was a very useful movie. When my roses started to wilt I put the DVD in the flower bed and they perked right up. They are showing signs of over-fertilization now, however.
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Some of you may have seen my previous apoplexies involving the film 'BraveHeart'.
Expect much the same from me when discussing the film shaped turd that is 'Pearl Harbor'.
Yet another dreadful screenplay/story from Randall 'F**k History' Wallace.

Horrible horrible horrible script, acting, and storyline.
As Diddy has previously pointed out, all the modern ships/equipment in the background of different shots.
Awful flight physics on the CGI airplanes.
An obvious lack of any general knowledge of how flying works especially the speeds achieved to make an aeroplane fly, especially closure speeds with other aircraft/objects.
Nurses on duty in the hospital with their hair down.
Bikinis before their time.
The classic line " there's no way we can outrun a zero so we'll have to outfly them instead", when the opposite was mostly true.
The chase scene where the zeros chasing the P40's were in a firing position for an eternity, were the piots cross eyed?
Once again as Diddy pointed out, using fighter pilots on the Doolittle raid? When there were trained bomber crews available? Why?
Not sure which ship it was (Oklahoma?) actually rising out of the water to capsize?
The romantic scene where one of the boys takes his love interest up on a sunset flight over Pearl Harbor with her on his lap, whispering sweet nothings to eachother. The cockpits of WWII fighters were usually hot, damn noisy and very cramped and uncomfortable places to be.
Civilians can just walk in and out of military bases in the PH universe.
Pilots can also just grab a plane a fly off in it without submitting even a rudimentary flightplan or booking it out or whatever else they had to do back then.

The overall tone of the film is, we weren't ready because of the bureaocrats in Washington, all the staff on the ground were highly perceptive and knew what was coming but their hands were tied, that's why it happened but we got em back with the Doolittle raid and we won the war god bless america!!!!

Sometimes you just have to accept that you got caught with your pants down and lost a battle and leave it at that. The inclusion of the Doolittle raid was completely unecessary.

Cuba Gooding jnr's character being in the white hospital being tended to by a white nurse. Now I got nothing to back this up, nothing at all, but there was still some segregation in the US armed forces at this time, it lasted up until the Korean war as far as I know. So I find that scene unlikely. But hey.

More on the Doolittle raid, from what I've read there was radio silence during it and little to no Flak or other response to it from the Japanese.

When I am king Michael Bay and Randall Wallace will be among the first to be put up against the wall.

God I'm sure there is much more I have missed or can't remember but that film from start to finish is a crime against humanity.
The radios (as well as some of the guns)were actually removed before they took off from Hornet to conserve weight.
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