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Old December 4th, 2012, 04:55 AM   #71

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And now seems to be willing to go Travis Bickle on a housefull of heavily armed gangsters.
That was a prophetic statement. And I think that those scenes, especially where they were struggling and Richard finally killed him off with a shot to the head was made as a tribute to Taxi Driver, the similarity was very noticeable, and especially so considering Scorseses involvement in the series.
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I wonder how Nucky got Mellon to name Rothstein to the DA. It is not exactly like Nucky and Mellon were close partners, and one should think that getting unwanted law attention on the still would not exactly be a profitable move for Mellon, nor would one think he would care to be an errand boy for Nucky.
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I wonder how Nucky got Mellon to name Rothstein to the DA. It is not exactly like Nucky and Mellon were close partners, and one should think that getting unwanted law attention on the still would not exactly be a profitable move for Mellon, nor would one think he would care to be an errand boy for Nucky.
The call from Nucky to Mellon was not shown, and by this call you mention we automatically know it occurred. Therefore, Rothstein's name was mentioned then. I thought it was pretty clear
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The call from Nucky to Mellon was not shown, and by this call you mention we automatically know it occurred. Therefore, Rothstein's name was mentioned then. I thought it was pretty clear
Yes, I get all that, but what I wondered about was that during the only meeting Mellon and Nucky had in an earlier episode, Mellon ("the richest man in the world") treated Nucky just a tiny bit better than the common staff (actually evicting him from his club). And only later seemingly not very willing agreed to their trade-off where Nucky got the still.

I just wondered how Nucky would ever be able to persuade Mellon to call the DA and name Rothstein and effectually close down his own still. Mellon barely seemed like he wanted to stoop to speak to Nucky in the first place. Such a deal could not have been made unless there was something in it for Mellon.

Unless they reveal something special in the first episode of the next season, it does seem to me to be somewhat of a plot hole.
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Yes, I get all that, but what I wondered about was that during the only meeting Mellon and Nucky had in an earlier episode, Mellon ("the richest man in the world") treated Nucky just a tiny bit better than the common staff (actually evicting him from his club). And only later seemingly not very willing agreed to their trade-off where Nucky got the still.

I just wondered how Nucky would ever be able to persuade Mellon to call the DA and name Rothstein and effectually close down his own still. Mellon barely seemed like he wanted to stoop to speak to Nucky in the first place. Such a deal could not have been made unless there was something in it for Mellon.

Unless they reveal something special in the first episode of the next season, it does seem to me to be somewhat of a plot hole.
If you remember in the meeting with Mellon, Mellon specifically mentioned how he was anxious to prosecute these bootleggers, and the Remus prosecution was all he needed. Now, Mellon gets a bigger fish in Rothstein handed to him by Nucky, as well as getting rid of the thorn in his side (the distillery) at the same time. It is a win-win for all involved.
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If you remember in the meeting with Mellon, Mellon specifically mentioned how he was anxious to prosecute these bootleggers, and the Remus prosecution was all he needed. Now, Mellon gets a bigger fish in Rothstein handed to him by Nucky, as well as getting rid of the thorn in his side (the distillery) at the same time. It is a win-win for all involved.
I must admit I don't remember him saying that. I seem to remember that he thought the Volstead act was an annoyance.
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The call from Nucky to Mellon was not shown, and by this call you mention we automatically know it occurred. Therefore, Rothstein's name was mentioned then. I thought it was pretty clear
Nucky needn't have said a word since it was Gaston Means who was leaning in to mention Rothsteins name, Means has his own nifty line in political arm twisting.

As Jess Smith and a garden full of crispy money could tell you!

Oh and i honestly thought he was a fictional character, the real one is even more crooked than the recreation

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Nucky needn't have said a word since it was Gaston Means who was leaning in to mention Rothsteins name, Means has his own nifty line in political arm twisting.

As Jess Smith and a garden full of crispy money could tell you!

Oh and i honestly thought he was a fictional character, the real one is even more crooked than the recreation

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Very interesting. I did too think he was a fictional character. He even has a certain likeness to Stephen Root in that picture.
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Nucky needn't have said a word since it was Gaston Means who was leaning in to mention Rothsteins name, Means has his own nifty line in political arm twisting.

As Jess Smith and a garden full of crispy money could tell you!

Oh and i honestly thought he was a fictional character, the real one is even more crooked than the recreation

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I thought he was fictional as well!!! He even wrote a book... I may have to buy a copy!

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i was never really interested in the 20's era until i started watching downton abbey. my husband really likes this show and i've always been a steve buscemi fan. i was never one for gangster movies either but i really like BE. i'm only up to episode 4 of season 1 and i'm hooked..
and it's based on real people which is always a plus for me.
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