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Old November 11th, 2012, 03:54 AM   #21

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As has already been mentioned.

Das Boot
Downfall
All quiet on the Western Front
Although I consider Downfall as a pretty accurate presentation of events in the Bunker, I dont think we will ever really know with any certainty what really transpired.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 07:00 AM   #22

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Braveheart and 10,000 B.C. were accurate movies
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Old November 11th, 2012, 08:27 AM   #23

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I would also echo peoples sentiments on Das Boot.

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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #24

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Overall, I believe Enemy at the Gates was pretty accurate. Even to the last scenes.
an old post i know but i will still reply


no it wasn't. even if we do take Vassili Zaitsev's story of the german sniper colonel as true the movie still presented things very different to how he described them. in Zaitsev's account he tells how he spent several days tracked the colonial before finding him under a sheet of metal. he was able to draw his location by putting a glove on a stick which drew his fire at which he shot him and found documents on him telling how he was head of a german sniper school and sent personal to kill him. the whole story seems very convenient that he had such documents and i doubt that an expert sniper would have wasted a shot on a hand. most damming of all their is no official soviet records of it and they were very detailed in following every action by a sniper as their exploits were great for moral. that such a story was never mentioned dams it all.

back to the movie even the opening scene seems by what i can tell fiction as soviet soldiers were not for the most part sent in with one rifle for two men
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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #25

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Was there even a sniper of that name involved? I know there was snipers of that calibre, but im sure the duel between the two was possibly disputed.

Im sure there was dispute over this, with the Russian and/or German snipers involved. I forget.
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Although I consider Downfall as a pretty accurate presentation of events in the Bunker, I dont think we will ever really know with any certainty what really transpired.
We do know some of the events that transpired in the bunker from the inhabitants. Don't forget that at the time the film was made, four people who were in the bunker were still alive - Bernd von Freytag-Loringhoven, Armin Lehmann, Siegfried Knappe and Rochus Misch (who is still alive, but terminally ill).
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Old November 11th, 2012, 10:32 AM   #27

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I believe the movie "Defiance" was fairly accurate too.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #28

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Was there even a sniper of that name involved? I know there was snipers of that calibre, but im sure the duel between the two was possibly disputed.

I'm sure there was dispute over this, with the Russian and/or German snipers involved. I forget.
there are no german records at all that show this 'Major König' ever existed or that the sniper school he taught at in Berlin ever existed. there is though a soviet report that after the war while Zaitsev was in Berlin he was approached by a woman claiming to be the Majors daughter, Zaitsev was immediately evacuated from Berlin to avoid a confrontation.

yet finding an exact source for that also ever happening is also tricky
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I believe the movie "Defiance" was fairly accurate too.
our polish member Mosquito thinks differently and in fact knows of the 'less honorable' actions of this jewish partisan group.
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And old movie from my youth in the sevenths "Nicholas and Alexandra"
A little more recent, but not by much, "In The Name of The Father" "Some Mothers Sons", "Bloody Sunday" and "Omagh"
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