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Old November 19th, 2012, 10:43 AM   #31
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Hahah, I don't think Lincoln had bisexual relationships. That was something revealed in a book desperate to sell copies. As I remember it, the theory was that Lincoln was bisexual because he slept in the same bed as many of his friends. That was actually a practice done by virtually all men.

Unless there's something more, I find it very hard to believe.

Exactly, during that era it was normal for more than 1 man to sleep in one bed.
No one saw anything wrong with that.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 10:44 AM   #32

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It's been discussed by more than just one book, and the evidence goes far beyond the fact that he slept in the same bed as many of his friends (was this really 'a practice done by virtually all men'? Evidence, please?) It was sufficiently unusual to invite comment and speculation in Lincoln's day.
Do you have any examples of "comment and speculation in Lincoln's day"? All the comment and speculation I've ever heard has been later year revisionists projecting modern day standards on frontier times (and generally trying to sell books while they're at it).
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Old November 19th, 2012, 06:05 PM   #33

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Exactly, during that era it was normal for more than 1 man to sleep in one bed.
No one saw anything wrong with that.
One might recall Melville in Moby Dick. Ismael checks into his room in New Bedford and in the middle of the night Queequeg comes into the room and gets into bed with a man he never saw before. It didn't imply that either or both were gay.
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Old November 21st, 2012, 04:45 PM   #34

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Saw it this afternoon. Truly outstanding. One of the best movies I've seen in a long time. I see Oscars in the future for this one.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 08:11 PM   #35

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Just saw the movie, it was excellent. Better than I expected. Some in the theater were crying towards the end. One of the best historical movies I've seen in a long time!
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 09:13 PM   #36

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Movie was very slow and boring. I was expecting this movie would be based on American Civil War(action on it) but it wasn't. It was educating movie though... Also I have to improve my English asap, watching movies in America without subtitles makes me miss lots of points on the movies. I liked how Lincoln was looking nearly same with real Lincoln.
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Just watched it. Truly spectacular. This is an example of how ALL historical movies should be done.
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I saw it today, my wife and I were able to squeeze it in between all the things we have to do. We both enjoyed it, the audience applauded at the end. I was glad that contemporary vernacular was used, and that Lincolns humor was shown, even the sort of humor that some of his day censured him for.

I would have a few quibbles about some minor things, but this film was more historically accurate then any other movie dramatization I have seen.

The one major inaccuracy that I noted in the film was the Confederate peace delegation asking to be readmitted to the union in order to make sure the ammendment did not pass. I have read quite a bit of that eras history and I had never heard of such an offer being made or hinted at ever before this film. It could be that some source exists for such a thing, but I suspect it was one of those liberties that Hollywood often takes with history.
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The one major inaccuracy that I noted in the film was the Confederate peace delegation asking to be readmitted to the union in order to make sure the ammendment did not pass. I have read quite a bit of that eras history and I had never heard of such an offer being made or hinted at ever before this film. It could be that some source exists for such a thing, but I suspect it was one of those liberties that Hollywood often takes with history.
Of course....facts do not matter, but the bright light of imagery trumps
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The one major inaccuracy that I noted in the film was the Confederate peace delegation asking to be readmitted to the union in order to make sure the ammendment did not pass. I have read quite a bit of that eras history and I had never heard of such an offer being made or hinted at ever before this film. It could be that some source exists for such a thing, but I suspect it was one of those liberties that Hollywood often takes with history.
I've never heard that either. That's one of the areas I'm going to have to look into to see if there's any basis for it. Of course the peace delegation could offer whatever they wanted. But unless Jefferson Davis approved of it, it was meaningless, and that wasn't about to happen.
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