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November 19th, 2012, 04:04 PM
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#1 | | Historian
Joined: Aug 2011 From: Texas Posts: 3,767 | Western Films
Any favorites to share from the genres:
Classic Americans Westerns - From the silent era to the sixties revisionists era
The modern contemporary Americans interpretation
Euro-Westerns - Any European Western that doesn't include the Spaghetti version.
Spaghetti Westerns
Red Westerns or Ostern Westerns
Curry Westerns
Horror Westerns
Space Westerns
Science fictions Westerns
Acid Westerns
Honestly, when i first looked into it, i didn't realize there was so many Western genres.
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November 19th, 2012, 05:00 PM
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#2 | | Guardian Knight
Joined: Oct 2010 From: USA Posts: 7,792 |
It is that very number of genres that ruined westerns. When Dracula, aliens and inaccurate scenes started making their way into western movies more and more, the good westerns lost their audience. I must say that it's been a long time since I saw a good western movie.
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December 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM
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#3 | | Citizen
Joined: Nov 2012 From: Luxton Posts: 11 |
Last truly good one I saw (apart from the many I have on VHS and DVD) was Unforgiven. Slow burner until the last fifteen minutes, worth it for those fifteen minutes alone. Great film. Before that, Pale Rider. Haven't seen a really good one since, although 3:10 to Yuma wasn't bad at all.
Remake of True Grit suffered mostly from the fact that it was a remake - of one of the most iconic of Westerns; it was actually a very laudable film in many ways and if the John Wayne version had never existed, would stand quite well, but unfortunately I could not watch a second of it without thinking "this was better in the original.." Shame because I really wanted to like it.
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December 1st, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 24,115 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector Cyril Blake Remake of True Grit suffered mostly from the fact that it was a remake - of one of the most iconic of Westerns; it was actually a very laudable film in many ways and if the John Wayne version had never existed, would stand quite well, but unfortunately I could not watch a second of it without thinking "this was better in the original.." Shame because I really wanted to like it. | I had the same problem. It is hard to redo John Wayne.
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December 1st, 2012, 11:22 AM
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#5 | | Historian
Joined: May 2012 From: جيبوتي Posts: 1,534 |
As far as a series, Deadwood is great. What are curry westerns? With Asian Indians?
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December 1st, 2012, 11:29 AM
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#6 | | Historian
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Lago Maggiore, Italy Posts: 5,355 |
John Wayne was unique.
And in the movies where he played there were some masterpieces of real popular art [I have often wondered why recent movies are so "easy"].
Do you remember Rio Bravo with John and Dean?
Anyway, being Italian, the "join venture" between the Italian film makers and the great American actors is my "dream realm".
Leevan Cleef VS Clint Eastwood [according to Tarantino this is one of the best scenes in film history, I guess according to his notorious taste ...] | | |
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December 1st, 2012, 11:29 AM
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#7 | | Historian
Joined: Apr 2012 From: Romania Posts: 1,569 |
My favourite Western is a Spaghetti Western: | | |
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December 1st, 2012, 11:43 AM
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#8 | | Lecturer
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 490 |
Mexico had its gold era of filmmaking which included Westerns which I would think for Mexico it would appropiate to call Northerns.
Generally, the Mexican western movies from the golden age are better then the modern ones.
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December 1st, 2012, 11:59 AM
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#9 | | Historian
Joined: Mar 2012 From: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,188 |
I think the remake of True Grit will wear well with time. I love the original and John Wayne, but it is cartoon to some extent (the Grand Tetons as Oklahoma?). I think that as we with a direct connection to Wayne drop off, the remake will look better to the next generation.
My favorite Wayne western is El Dorado.
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December 1st, 2012, 12:01 PM
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#10 | | Citizen
Joined: Nov 2012 From: Luxton Posts: 11 |
Rio Bravo was on the telly one afternoon recently. When you're stuck at home hardly able to move, it's nice when they put something else on other than reality/chat/property/cookery/antique shows. Angie Dickinson in it too.
I agree, the John Wayne westerns are masterpieces of popular art. In fact it was a John Wayne film that first introduced me to what I call the director's "eye" - how composition and lighting in a shot can tell you the whole story in a moment of understanding. The Searchers, final shot in the doorway when Ethan stands there alone, doesn't come in but is just silhouetted and turns away. I was only 11 but I got it right there and then. Wonderfully made film, real work of art.
Edit - fair point well made Rory re: John Wayne and our generation.
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