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Old November 19th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #1

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Western Films


Any favorites to share from the genres:

Classic Americans Westerns - From the silent era to the sixties revisionists era

The modern contemporary Americans interpretation

Euro-Westerns - Any European Western that doesn't include the Spaghetti version.

Spaghetti Westerns

Red Westerns or Ostern Westerns

Curry Westerns

Horror Westerns

Space Westerns

Science fictions Westerns

Acid Westerns

Honestly, when i first looked into it, i didn't realize there was so many Western genres.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #2

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It is that very number of genres that ruined westerns. When Dracula, aliens and inaccurate scenes started making their way into western movies more and more, the good westerns lost their audience. I must say that it's been a long time since I saw a good western movie.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM   #3

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Last truly good one I saw (apart from the many I have on VHS and DVD) was Unforgiven. Slow burner until the last fifteen minutes, worth it for those fifteen minutes alone. Great film. Before that, Pale Rider. Haven't seen a really good one since, although 3:10 to Yuma wasn't bad at all.

Remake of True Grit suffered mostly from the fact that it was a remake - of one of the most iconic of Westerns; it was actually a very laudable film in many ways and if the John Wayne version had never existed, would stand quite well, but unfortunately I could not watch a second of it without thinking "this was better in the original.." Shame because I really wanted to like it.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 10:16 AM   #4

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Remake of True Grit suffered mostly from the fact that it was a remake - of one of the most iconic of Westerns; it was actually a very laudable film in many ways and if the John Wayne version had never existed, would stand quite well, but unfortunately I could not watch a second of it without thinking "this was better in the original.." Shame because I really wanted to like it.
I had the same problem. It is hard to redo John Wayne.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:22 AM   #5

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As far as a series, Deadwood is great. What are curry westerns? With Asian Indians?
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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:29 AM   #6

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John Wayne was unique.

And in the movies where he played there were some masterpieces of real popular art [I have often wondered why recent movies are so "easy"].

Do you remember Rio Bravo with John and Dean?


Anyway, being Italian, the "join venture" between the Italian film makers and the great American actors is my "dream realm".

Leevan Cleef VS Clint Eastwood [according to Tarantino this is one of the best scenes in film history, I guess according to his notorious taste ...]

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My favourite Western is a Spaghetti Western:
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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:43 AM   #8

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Mexico had its gold era of filmmaking which included Westerns which I would think for Mexico it would appropiate to call Northerns.

Generally, the Mexican western movies from the golden age are better then the modern ones.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:59 AM   #9

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I think the remake of True Grit will wear well with time. I love the original and John Wayne, but it is cartoon to some extent (the Grand Tetons as Oklahoma?). I think that as we with a direct connection to Wayne drop off, the remake will look better to the next generation.

My favorite Wayne western is El Dorado.
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Rio Bravo was on the telly one afternoon recently. When you're stuck at home hardly able to move, it's nice when they put something else on other than reality/chat/property/cookery/antique shows. Angie Dickinson in it too.

I agree, the John Wayne westerns are masterpieces of popular art. In fact it was a John Wayne film that first introduced me to what I call the director's "eye" - how composition and lighting in a shot can tell you the whole story in a moment of understanding. The Searchers, final shot in the doorway when Ethan stands there alone, doesn't come in but is just silhouetted and turns away. I was only 11 but I got it right there and then. Wonderfully made film, real work of art.

Edit - fair point well made Rory re: John Wayne and our generation.
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