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Old November 24th, 2012, 04:19 PM   #11
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AFAIK the movie was very accurate. Except the scene where they are eating crabs and the guy has no idea how to eat one!
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Old November 24th, 2012, 04:20 PM   #12

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In the book "Killing Lincoln", it seems as though he had quite a sense of humor, if not a little on the dark side sometimes. Probably went with the times.
He definitely had quite a sense of humor. I get the impression, however, that his jokes amused himself more than they did most other people. I think the movie kind of conveyed that idea too.
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AFAIK the movie was very accurate. Except the scene where they are eating crabs and the guy has no idea how to eat one!
I mentioned that earlier. The crab scene was a travesty AND the crabs looked fake. On the one hand, I would envy crabs as big as those props (they may have actually existed in 1865), but on the other hand hopefully I would not take a big heavy rubber mallet and smash them to bits. That was truly awful to a Chesapeake Bay resident. It's kinda funny that everyone I have spoken to who's from around here mentions the crab scene, which was about 10 seconds long.
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I mentioned that earlier. The crab scene was a travesty AND the crabs looked fake. On the one hand, I would envy crabs as big as those props (they may have actually existed in 1865), but on the other hand hopefully I would not take a big heavy rubber mallet and smash them to bits. That was truly awful to a Chesapeake Bay resident. It's kinda funny that everyone I have spoken to who's from around here mentions the crab scene, which was about 10 seconds long.
I thought that scene was more for a little comic relief and perhaps a little artistic irony. I think it was fitting that the guys who were beating the Congressmen over the head to pass the 13th Amendment were beating their crabs with a giant mallet. Being that they (presumably) weren't area residents, it wouldn't be unreasonable to presume that they didn't know the correct way to eat the crab, and given who they were, they probably wouldn't care. It seemed to me they were wasting a lot of good crab meat too, but that again is fitting.
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I thought that scene was more for a little comic relief and perhaps a little artistic irony. I think it was fitting that the guys who were beating the Congressmen over the head to pass the 13th Amendment were beating their crabs with a giant mallet. Being that they (presumably) weren't area residents, it wouldn't be unreasonable to presume that they didn't know the correct way to eat the crab, and given who they were, they probably wouldn't care. It seemed to me they were wasting a lot of good crab meat too, but that again is fitting.
I winced at that scene too. It was totally reminiscent of that scene from "As Good As it Gets," when they had to get dressed up for crabs and they only got one each on a fancy plate.

Was it true that the reason Lincoln's father moved them to Illinois was because he couldn't compete with the slave labor?

If Lincoln didn't own slaves why do I keep saying neo-confeds saying he did? Did he inherit some that he gave freedom too or are they making this up whole cloth
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Was it true that the reason Lincoln's father moved them to Illinois was because he couldn't compete with the slave labor?
Lincoln's father disliked slavery partially for religious/moral reasons, but also for the reasons you stated. Kentucky land titles were a chaotic mess. Lincoln had trouble proving title to his lands, and the big slaveholders were taking huge tracts of land. He finally decided he had enough and moved his family to Indiana.

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Neo-confederates say that Lincoln owned slaves for the same reason they say Lee didn't (and for the same reason "neo-Unionists" say Lee kept a hunt list of young slave girls). The next time you hear anyone say it, ask for primary sources and citations.

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Lincoln's father disliked slavery partially for religious/moral reasons, but also for the reasons you stated. Kentucky land titles were a chaotic mess. Lincoln had trouble proving title to his lands, and the big slaveholders were taking huge tracts of land. He finally decided he had enough and moved his family to Indiana.



Neo-confederates say that Lincoln owned slaves for the same reason they say Lee didn't (and for the same reason "neo-Unionists" say Lee kept a hunt list of young slave girls). The next time you hear anyone say it, ask for primary sources and citations.
I don't think it's for the same reasons. I know I said it because it is in a book that cites primary sources. Yes, I know, I have not read the book. It's on the short list. But I hear the book is accurate. I don't say it for any malicious or dishonest reasons. If it isn't true, and that book is inaccurate, I won't say it. But if it is, I will continue to say it because I'm tired of hearing about St. Lee the Great.

I've found that neo-confeds say things that are completely untrue just to make the Union look bad. Big difference.
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