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Old November 24th, 2012, 01:19 PM   #1

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How accurate is it? And since we are on the subject of Lincoln, did he really have slaves?
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Old November 24th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #2

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As excited as I get when Hollywood does a historical movie, but
I always cringe at the cankers the made up dialogue from movies
leaves on impressionable audiences who actually think that what was
spoken in the movie, is all factually true.
Did AL own slaves? There's a little book on this topic:

Did Lincoln Own Slaves?: And Other Frequently Asked Questions about Abraham Lincoln: Gerald J. Prokopowicz, Norman Dietz: Amazon.com: Books
Did Lincoln Own Slaves?: And Other Frequently Asked Questions about Abraham Lincoln: Gerald J. Prokopowicz, Norman Dietz: Amazon.com: Books

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As excited as I get when Hollywood does a historical movie, but
I always cringe at the cankers the made up dialogue from movies
leaves on impressionable audiences who actually think that what was
spoken in the movie, is all factually true.
Did AL own slaves? There's a little book on this topic:
Did Lincoln Own Slaves?: And Other Frequently Asked Questions about Abraham Lincoln: Gerald J. Prokopowicz, Norman Dietz: Amazon.com: Books
I don't think all the dialogue is all true, but the basis of the movie- how true is it? Were there serious errors?

You posted that book in another thread. I'm very interested in getting it, however I can't afford it at the moment. Is there a short answer?
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Old November 24th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #4

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The short answer to the question of did Lincoln own slaves is NO.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 02:40 PM   #5

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The short answer to the question of did Lincoln own slaves is NO.
I certainly enjoyed the movie
and highly recommend it.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 02:42 PM   #6

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I certainly enjoyed the movie
and highly recommend it.
I hate the every movie has to squeeze in at least one blasphemy of Our Lord's Name. Other than that, it was enjoyable. I lol'ed a few times. I guess Lincoln was quite the raconteur.
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I hate the every movie has to squeeze in at least one blasphemy of Our Lord's Name. Other than that, it was enjoyable. I lol'ed a few times. I guess Lincoln was quite the raconteur.
In the book "Killing Lincoln", it seems as though he had quite a sense of humor, if not a little on the dark side sometimes. Probably went with the times.
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I don't think all the dialogue is all true, but the basis of the movie- how true is it?
I don't know. It is frustrating as a teacher, or maybe it is a good thing,
to hear students ask questions about a movie and its accuracy.
But the kick in the historical shin are kids saying, "I saw it in a movie
where ________ happened and assumed it was true." I have to remind
my students that Hollywood takes great liberties in churning out a product
that they know looks good on film, but might not be so accurate.

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Were there serious errors?
I don't know, I haven't seen it yet and I'm not burning rubber to go see it
anytime soon either. I'll catch it on Netflix or DVD

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You posted that book in another thread. I'm very interested in getting it, however I can't afford it at the moment. Is there a short answer?
The book is by Gerald J. Prokopowicz who is not going to go after
Lincoln in a critical way. He served at the Lincoln Museum in Ft. Wayne,
Indiana; editor of the Lincoln Lore which is a quarterly journal of the
Lincoln Museum. He was also a member of the AL Bicentennial Commission
Advisory Committee, so you know he knows his material. The book
is made up of a question asked, then he answers it. It makes for a
quick fun read. He answers the "Did AL own slaves" question in chapter
nine on page 156 and a lot more follow up questions. For big fans
of Lincoln, this book is a nice quick reference.
Click the image to open in full size.'
Here's proof I have a copy.

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Old November 24th, 2012, 04:16 PM   #9

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I don't think all the dialogue is all true, but the basis of the movie- how true is it? Were there serious errors?
So much of it is behind the scenes stuff, that it would be hard to know. I'm going to be doing a lot of research on some aspects of it.

What I do know about what happened was basically correct. I spotted some minor "errors", which were probably artistic license to make the story more understandable. For example, the scene where Lincoln and Grant are sitting on the porch of a house, and Lincoln tells Grant that he wants the Confederate soldiers to be given very generous surrender terms, and he wants the Confederate leaders to be allowed to escape the country behind his back, did happen... sort of.

The way it actually happened, Lincoln met Grant, Sherman, and Admiral Porter aboard the River Queen and told them that he wanted generous surrender terms for the Confederate soldiers. Then Sherman asked him about the Confederate leaders. Lincoln didn't answer the question directly, but instead told a story, the moral of which was if they could escape "unbeknown to him, he would not object".
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The short answer to the question of did Lincoln own slaves is NO.
The long answer is of course he didn't.
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