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Old March 20th, 2013, 02:10 AM   #51

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I could have sworn I just saw Guy Pearce in it.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 02:24 AM   #52

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I watched fourth episode, and despite pesimism at the beginning I like it more and more. Vikings are shown as brutal, but not savages, but people who have their own culture and civilization. It's not like in most of other movies; barbarians with long beards are coming to certain city, they rape, kill and plunder and then go to sacrifice humans to their gods. I would just like if they would put more dialogues on original language of Vikings. I understand it's impossible to run whole show like that, but at least something would be nice for a change. I'm eager to see what will be the future of Ragnar's priest and how his relation with brother will develop.
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When did they say Russia? In the English version it just said "Eastern Baltic" or something like that.
Couldn't they have just said the Land of the Rus, or something like that? Or Rusland, whatever.
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Just watched all of the four episodes today and I am really liking this show.
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Just downloading S1E1.

They sacked Rochester in 999 I think, the cads. Whacked the Bishop of Canterbury round the head too, but he was probably asking for it.

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A. 839. This year there was great slaughter at London,
and at Canterbury, and at Rochester.
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A. 999. This year the army again came about into
Thames, and went then up along the Medway, and to
Rochester. And then the Kentish forces came there to meet
them, and they there stoutly joined battle r but alas ! that
they too quickly yielded and fled ; for they had not the sup-
port which they should have had. And the Danish-men
had possession of the place of carnage ; and then they took
horse and rode wheresoever they themselves would, and full
nigh all the West-Kentish men they ruined and plundered.
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And the Danes had possession of
the place of carnage : and there were they horsed
...
And nevertheless, for all the truce and tribute,
they went everywhere in bands, and plundered our miserable
people, and robbed and slew them. And then in this year,
between the Nativity of St. Mary and St. Mi chad's -mass,
they besieged Canterbury, and got into it through treachery,
because Elfmar betrayed it, whose life the archbishop Elphege
had before saved. And there they took the archbishop
Elphege, and Elfward the king's steward, and the abbess Leo-
fruna,* and bishop Godwin.f And abbat Elfmar { they let
go away. And they took there witliin all the men in orders,
and men and women : it is not to be told to any man how
many there were. And they remained within the city
afterwards as long as they would. And when they had
thoroughly searched the city, then went they to their ships,
and led the archbishop with them.
Was then captive erewhile saw bliss,

he who erewhile was in that hapless city,

head of the English race whence to us came first

and Christendom. Cliristendom and bliss,

There might then be seen 'fore God, and 'fore the world,
misery, where men oft

And they kept the archbishop with them so long as mtil the
time that they martyred him.
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What's an "expected hollywood cliche"? There is a "bad" guy? There is a "good" guy? There is an intrigue between the good guy, his wife and his brother? All of these "cliches" are not something hollywood came up with - those are the very basic pillars of fictional storytelling and have been there since people have written fiction. Read any of the classical authors - you will find the same. It is necessary to have this in order to tell a fiction story - and that's precisely what this is - FICTION, not docummentary. If you take all of these "cliches" out you get just another narrative docummentary, and there's plenty of these about the vikings. I want to see something new - a fiction series about the vikings that's made as accurate as possible. And that's how the series is up until now - fiction (because it has those "cliches" of storytelling", but made quite historically accurate.
I agree with Krystian. They are not exactly cliches either but tropes. I think the make up and costumes and the sets are not bad at all, I like the acting (Gabriel Byrne is a damn good actor) and all in all I like the show. I hope more stuff like this will come out from History channel in the future rather than some alien crap
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When did they say Russia? In the English version it just said "Eastern Baltic" or something like that.
I agree, I don't recall them using the term Russia...Just that they were going to raid East or something to that effect but definitly not the term Russia...
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OK what's going on with the blind guy, why did he tell the boy to wait outside and then lick the blind freak's hand? Is there some sort of viking kinky stuff going on or what?
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Just finished episode four. Pretty good so far. I downloaded an audio-book of Robert Ferguson's 'The Vikings' to give myself a quick shot in the arm vis a vie background. Haven't spotted anything egregious yet and, as far as I'm concerned, that's good enough for me. There's a reason we have an idiom such as 'artistic license'. A TV show that is pure, 100% reality would be boring. If I wanted real life I'd go outside, not watch TV.

As far as I can tell (from my very non-expert point of view), the people who made this really did care about making things FEEL authentic, while still giving the writers enough wiggle room to make a compelling drama. As a drama, it has a lot of the stand-bys (sexual and governmental politics, the threat and actualization of violence, etc), and having just recently watched through 'Rome' and the reimagined 'Battlestar Galactic' it feels like familiar ground in a lot of ways, but it is well enough done. I don't find myself bored (in fact I find myself having that old feeling of impatience at waiting a week for the new episode), I'm compelled by some of the things going on, and I feel immersed in the setting.

Can you ask more from a network series? Comparing the show with other non-premium television show should expose the level of quality it has achieved. I mean, notice how people earlier in the topic were comparing it to HBO dramas?

Oh, and yeah: it's about vikings. Come on.
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The opening sequence of every epsiode reminds me of True Blood.
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