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Old January 17th, 2013, 08:11 PM   #21
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15 years after the film, James Cameron knew exactly how she had sunk. Documentary- James Cameron, The Final word.

First, Titanic sunk with a right list, second, as she split the stern keeled over and sunk on an angle only to right herself up right before the stern slip under the water. Thirdly, Titanic's stern never reach that high into the sky, only an 90 degree angle between the stern and the water.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #22
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Not a popular film in our household. My wife is related to Joseph Boxall and finds the films depiction of the crew fairly insulting.
How she related?

Same with Willaim Murdoch's family. They were up and arms when James Cameron made out that Officer Murdoch was a coward by committing suicide in the movie.
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I love that film - history was modified alot though:

Mistakes in Titanic (1997)
I loathed the movie...
It's one of the only times I walked out of the theatre in a movie...(the other notorious times being Blade and Van Helsing. But they were still a lot worse than Titanic, I admit )
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Anyone else wonder about this?

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It appears that there wasn't enough "floating capacity" for two people (that would be around 140 kg, 60 kg for the girl and 80 kg for the boy) at that plank of wood.
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Was that the Channel 5 documentary? I saw that they were making one, is it any good?
I've seen the film itself, it's interesting as a piece of wartime Nazi propaganda if you're into social history, and the history of the film itself is a story too.

Aye, it was presented that way too on the Channel 5 programme... as Nazi propaganda. Then towards the end it said that because of the deteriorating situation in Germany, the bombs coming fast and furious and the people being in a low state as far as morale was concerned Gobbels decided not to show it as he thought the scenes of people drowning would only make matters worse.

The man Salpin (summit like that) who was the director spoke out a bit too much for his own good and was betrayed by his 'friend' the screen writer who told the Nazis of his outburst. Salpin was arrested and was later found dead in his cell. Its still not sure if it was the Gestapo's doing or self-inflicted.
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The Titanic disaster was a clothes line to hang movie stars and romance on..
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Old January 19th, 2013, 05:37 AM   #27

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A picture from a local newspaper and a link to the Titanic Quarter

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Banner in honour of Past Master of the Lodge - Thomas Rowan Morrow - who perished onboard Titanic in 1912


http://www.titanicbelfast.com/Navigation/The-Titanic-Experience.aspx
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Aye, it was presented that way too on the Channel 5 programme... as Nazi propaganda. Then towards the end it said that because of the deteriorating situation in Germany, the bombs coming fast and furious and the people being in a low state as far as morale was concerned Gobbels decided not to show it as he thought the scenes of people drowning would only make matters worse.

The man Salpin (summit like that) who was the director spoke out a bit too much for his own good and was betrayed by his 'friend' the screen writer who told the Nazis of his outburst. Salpin was arrested and was later found dead in his cell. Its still not sure if it was the Gestapo's doing or self-inflicted.
I'll see if I can find that then, it sounds interesting. I think it was Goebbels who commissioned the film as well as banned it in Germany. Apparently it was shown in occupied countries but wasn't popular.
The gist of the movie is that the disaster is the direct result of British arrogance etc and the sole hero is an officer who is German. I think there might have been some Jewish conspiracy stuff as well re the White Star company.
Just discovered that the whole film is on Youtube anyway.
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I'll see if I can find that then, it sounds interesting. I think it was Goebbels who commissioned the film as well as banned it in Germany. Apparently it was shown in occupied countries but wasn't popular.
The gist of the movie is that the disaster is the direct result of British arrogance etc and the sole hero is an officer who is German. I think there might have been some Jewish conspiracy stuff as well re the White Star company.
Just discovered that the whole film is on Youtube anyway.
It wasn't listed in our TV magazine and it was only by a family member ringing me up and teliing me that I was able to watch it. Yes, that programme give out the same message as you have described it. There was some mention of that arrogance also involved making a fast time to America.

It was also mentioned in the TV programme that clips from the Goebbels movie were used in the 1950s British made 'A Night To Remember'. A connection to Ulster was that the producer of that movie was a Belfast man called McQuitty.

Aye,thats right about it being on You Tube, had a search myself and there it was.
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