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Old March 28th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #11

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Soviet first strike doctrine was centered upon Strategic Air Command bases, PAVE PAWS Array stations, and silos and LCC's that they'd identified and targeted, as well as about 10 of the top US cities. Their idea (and ours as well, incidentally) was to take out the enemy's ability to respond as successfully as they could in the first wave of the attack. Also, redundancy was built into the first wave by both sides, the Soviets moreso than the Americans.

If you're interested in an obscure but certain first strike target for your book, you might consider the PAVE PAWS radar station built in the West Texas countryside between Cristoval and Eldorado, Texas. It was built about thirty miles from where I grew up. Which is in a town called San Angelo, hosting what was a SAC base, Goodfellow AFB, with what was a sister SAC base 45 minutes away, Dyess AFB, in Abilene, Texas. All Soviet targets in the Cold War. SAC is now defunct, as is the PAVE PAWS station I mentioned, but Goodfellow and Dyess are still alive and well.

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Old March 28th, 2011, 05:28 PM   #12

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Yeah. We would have been toast here, CB. SAC Wing of bombers and tankers, a PAVE PAWS array, Headquarters of the USAF Reserve, and primary depot level maintenance facility for the C-130 (especially the gunships), C-141, F-15 and at it's peak of operation during the cold war numbered over 5000 military and 15,000 civilian workers. I believe we were in line for more than one warhead.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 05:35 PM   #13

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Yeah. We would have been toast here, CB. SAC Wing of bombers and tankers, a PAVE PAWS array, Headquarters of the USAF Reserve, and primary depot level maintenance facility for the C-130 (especially the gunships), C-141, F-15 and at it's peak of operation during the cold war numbered over 5000 military and 15,000 civilian workers. I believe we were in line for more than one warhead.
Oh, Lordy, bro, you would have had at least 10 MIRVs headed your way. Loss of warhead was a factor figured into every Soviet bird, so they logically planned on quantity over quality. Y'all would have been radioactive glass just like I would have been.
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One high priority target was a hot dog stand.
Defense.gov News Article: Pentagon Hot Dog Stand, Cold War Legend, to be Torn Down
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I think people have failed to mention, that Orlanda and Miami in Florida were both cities which were in critical danger from potential Cuban missile strikes.

These two cities are more important when asking the question of 'nuclear targets'. Because more so than any of the cities mentioned here, which were 'potential targets'. These two were actually well inside the Cuban missile strike range, and were very much in danger of being hit from Cuba if Khruschev hadn't backed down.
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I think people have failed to mention, that Orlanda and Miami in Florida were both cities which were in critical danger from potential Cuban missile strikes.

These two cities are more important when asking the question of 'nuclear targets'. Because more so than any of the cities mentioned here, which were 'potential targets'. These two were actually well inside the Cuban missile strike range, and were very much in danger of being hit from Cuba if Khruschev hadn't backed down.
What importance did they have other than being tourist attractions and the possible ignition of a Cuban-American War?
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What importance did they have other than being tourist attractions and the possible ignition of a Cuban-American War?
Other than Miami being a port city and the largest repository of Batista Cubans, and Orlando being an "escapism" rec city, not much else than terror targets.
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Other than Miami being a port city and the largest repository of Batista Cubans, and Orlando being an "escapism" rec city, not much else than terror targets.
Ah so political revenge by the Cubans. Interesting.
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Old March 31st, 2011, 07:46 PM   #19

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I spent the last couple of years in the Air Force assigned to a SAC wing here in Georgia. That this base was targeted is obvious. What probably was not in the minds of the general public was the collateral threat to the entire state because of the post launch mission the wing had. After launching our bombers and tankers on the alert pad, the mobility recovery plan kicked in. It entailed the gathering of support personnel, ground equipment (always preloaded on flatbeds), and weapons to travel to a secret location to recover surviving aircraft for turnaround and relaunch. The travel was to be by convoy using the interstate highway system. The Soviets were well aware of this, and to be honest none of us involved really believed we could pull it off. I guess any plan is better than no plan, but the glaring weaknesses and the multiple warheads that would have been deployed to thwart us would have most likely obliterated the state, and probably large areas of neighboring states that might have been accessible to us. All SAC wings had this plan and I guess it was hoped some assets would survive out of sheer randomness of fate. Oh, we would have tried, to be sure, but the odds were not good.
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What importance did they have other than being tourist attractions and the possible ignition of a Cuban-American War?
Are you being serious?! Hopefully not. 'The possible ignition of a Cuban-American War?'. If Khruschev hadn't backed down and Miami and Orlando were hit by the missiles in Cuba, it would have been WW3. Furthermore, the thread is called 'nuclear targets' and you are quite ignorant of the fact that these two cities were in the range of the Cuban missiles and were the only big cities to be in this range throughout the Cold War - and you are asking me what importance they have?!

Whilst people are throwing around city names like Berlin and Tokyo. WTF?! There is no evidence for these whatsoever.
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