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Old February 22nd, 2010, 04:15 PM   #11

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There's no vehemence on my part - life goes on with or without the forum.

I simply think that considering how easily one can circumvent the Homework rules (by not stating that it is homework, for starters) the rules will in fact discourage honesty and encourage deception.

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I really don't understand your vehemence on this subject. What is the problem? Can't you hold your interest for a few days and post again? It's now or never with you? Is YOUR interest span so short that it matters so much?
No. What annoys me is 1. the post I made into which I put some thought has been lost. And 2. nobody has made any attempt to answer the questions I asked.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 04:41 PM   #12

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No. What annoys me is 1. the post I made into which I put some thought has been lost. And 2. nobody has made any attempt to answer the questions I asked.

Your post is not lost...just sitting in limbo. It can easily be restored...when the individual provides me with evidence of work.

As to your other comments,

I totally get what you are saying about the deception of posters by not identifying their true intentions or by not posting in the homework section. It's safe to say that we haven't identified every thread that was supposed to be in the homework section. Nevertheless, the system is working well. Posters with legitimate homework issues come to the site and follow the protocol to the letter. Those who need genuine help do what is asked to receive that help...while others who don't take the time to read their book, study for a test, etc. usually don't comeback because they are forced to do the work. In some cases, many posters are able to help themselves by giving the question/assignment another thorough look.

With that being said, I am confident that the homework help section is thriving better than it ever has and will continue to do so as long as we maintain our diligence and integrity to promote a higher standard of learning.

For now, please refer to avon's previous post. There you will find the guidelines necessary to participate in the homework help section.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 05:01 PM   #13

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I bow to your greater experience.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 05:38 PM   #14

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I salute you, Bismarck.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 12:09 AM   #15

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You are too kind, sir.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #16

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I'm with the mods and V here. We can teach our kids to parrot what we tell them, or we can teach them how to learn. The choice seems obvious to me.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #17
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Oh please, spare me the 'socially repsonsible' nonsense. If someone wanted to plagiarise their history essay there are a mutlitude of better and more concise options available to them on the internet. It seems to me that the forum is over-reaching itself if it thinks it has a role to play in teaching the discipline of history to its members. One only has to look at the range of silly topics that are posted to realise what a futile undertaking that is. The fact of the matter is, the homework section provides some of the most interesting questions, and yet we are prevented from discussing them because of some "red tape".

If a newbie has any sense s/he wont declare it to be homework and will simply post their question in the general discussion threads, and soon enough the homework section will die a natural death.

I totally agree with you. The rules are dumb. Any student can get this information off of the internet anyways. Most are here to ask for opinions and what you think. As for 'proof' of work, that is almost impossible, because the only proof I have is the lecture from my professor. That is how we get all of our information. It is just a matter of figuring it all out, putting it all together, trying to make sense out of it, and so forth. If I can't get that kind of help here, then there is no use for this site for me.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 12:00 PM   #18

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I totally agree with you. The rules are dumb. Any student can get this information off of the internet anyways. Most are here to ask for opinions and what you think. As for 'proof' of work, that is almost impossible, because the only proof I have is the lecture from my professor. That is how we get all of our information. It is just a matter of figuring it all out, putting it all together, trying to make sense out of it, and so forth. If I can't get that kind of help here, then there is no use for this site for me.
I've never understood the fuss about the homework thing. I have no objection to answering a homework related question if it is of some use to someone, don't really see why anyone else should care.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #19
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i've never understood the fuss about the homework thing. I have no objection to answering a homework related question if it is of some use to someone, don't really see why anyone else should care.

thank you!!! People like you are such a blessing!!
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Old April 24th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #20

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I totally agree with you. The rules are dumb. Any student can get this information off of the internet anyways. Most are here to ask for opinions and what you think. As for 'proof' of work, that is almost impossible, because the only proof I have is the lecture from my professor. That is how we get all of our information. It is just a matter of figuring it all out, putting it all together, trying to make sense out of it, and so forth. If I can't get that kind of help here, then there is no use for this site for me.
I have to disagree with you here, PinkIce. You have recently asked some excellent questions here that have demonstrated that you have given a good amount of thought to the questions at hand, and that you are looking for input from the membership to help you perfect your knowledge. That's terrific. But I've seen many other students here and on other forums who just pop in and ask a question right off their homework assignment without giving any thought to the matter at all.

Could they circumvent the rules if they wanted to? Yes, of course. But interestingly, most of them don't. If they're not interested in putting the effort into answering the questions, they won't be interested in putting the effort into circumventing the rules. Perhaps they'll go to another forum or web-site altogether, but then they won't benefit from the high level of expertise they could get here.
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