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Old August 27th, 2015, 04:23 PM   #1
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Ever Caught Historical Errors in Children's Books?


I was just wondering what errors you've found in historical books for kids (fiction or non-fiction)?
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Old August 29th, 2015, 08:50 AM   #2
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Horrible Histories' Top Fifty Kings and Queens says:

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Henry left his lands in France to his nephew Stephen and the English throne to his daughter, Matilda, but Stephen wanted both and went to war with Matilda
Um, no, Horrible Histories. Who King Henry left the throne to is unknown because of competing claims, and as for which had the more valid rights to it that is an open question which also depends on an unknown ('was Matilda's mother a nun?'). Plus Stephen simply didn't start the war with Matilda - she sent her husband to raid Normandy when he'd been on the throne just three days.

Also, in an admittedly tongue-in-cheek poem, it writes 'if he'd caught her he'd surely have killed her.' Stephen? Kill someone? His sieges were among the least fatal things in the Middle Ages He was notorious for conceding in negotiations, not harming hostages, and letting enemies go. He actually had caught Matilda before, when she first invaded he England, and released her. He was Captain Clemency. So the 'he'd surely have killed her' line is pure garbage.

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Old August 29th, 2015, 12:31 PM   #3

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Don't know if this counts, but in elementary school our standard history book had a chapter on prehistoric man. The only picture it contained was of a man holding a baby by its feet and swinging it into a campfire, the mother terrified with a pleading gesture. Now, looking back, that seems a really odd way of representing the setting or behavior prehistoric man, as if it was normal.
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Dang. I've really enjoyed some of the Horrible Histories with my kids (not that one, but others), so sorry to hear of a gaping error like that in it. (Yeah, I know it's not a serious book, and a lot is tongue and cheek and that's fine...but how could they miss who started a war?)

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Horrible Histories' Top Fifty Kings and Queens says:

Um, no, Horrible Histories. Who King Henry left the throne to is unknown because of competing claims, and as for which had the more valid rights to it that is an open question which also depends on an unknown ('was Matilda's mother a nun?'). Plus Stephen simply didn't start the war with Matilda - she sent her husband to raid Normandy when he'd been on the throne just three days.

Also, in an admittedly tongue-in-cheek poem, it writes 'if he'd caught her he'd surely have killed her.' Stephen? Kill someone? His sieges were among the least fatal things in the Middle Ages He was notorious for conceding in negotiations, not harming hostages, and letting enemies go. He actually had caught Matilda before, when she first invaded he England, and released her. He was Captain Clemency. So the 'he'd surely have killed her' line is pure garbage.

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Old September 1st, 2015, 07:01 AM   #5

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I have never, ever found a single good/realistic map in any school books (for Children or not). I have once seen a Croatia starting at Albania, the baleares taking a trip back and forth the ocean in a series of maps of the reconquista, continental Sicily, Istria dissapearing, so much weird sh1t. It's not really hard to make a half-decent map.
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I caught 2 in the same chapter in an AP high school book yesterday.
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i caught 2 in the same chapter in an ap high school book yesterday.
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I bought my daughter a rather large children's history book. It was called 10000 Historical Facts (or something like that). Considering my own interests, after I brought it home I decided to see what it said about Japanese history. Naturally there was a little blurb about the Samurai in there. To my abhorrence, II Naomasa was identified as Li Naomasa.

I gave the book away. That sort of nonsense will not be tolerated in my house.
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Errors in *children's* books? Are you kidding? I find errors in books written for adults all the time! Not to mention weird conclusions and bizarre omissions.

I've got a book called "Bronze Age Warfare" whose three authors are incredibly reluctant to admit that warfare even occurred in the Bronze Age! Their discussion of armor has a nice photo of a cuirass from Marmesse in France, but I only later learned that it was one of NINE nearly identical cuirasses all found at the same place, nested together in groups of three. This is by far the largest collection of ancient armor in Europe, and these jokers apparently didn't even know about it. And we let them write a book?

That's one of the bigger howlers, but I've got other books that have so many sticky notes stuck in them that they look furry.

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I was just wondering what errors you've found in historical books for kids (fiction or non-fiction)?
Are you talking big or small errors? I've seen errors in many, many (and some very good) books. It happens.
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