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Old October 20th, 2016, 08:20 AM   #21

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Video: it sounds as Hungarian or Klingon . I would never say it is a Slavic language. I was not able to identify single word.
ZB: it means Brno Armoury, which became famous when license for machineguns bought Britain. BREN means Brno and Enfield, so the famous British machinguns are in reality the Czech ones.
Sudety: mostly Czech and Sudenty have small parts also in North and South Moravia and. You can compare the map linked before to the Sudety map.
Oh, BREN, I sure know BREN.

The video is from val Resia in Italy (Rezija). They speak the weirdest form of Slovene, they don't even call our language Slovene but "tabuški" because you can come to Rezija from Slovenia only from Bovec. They don't like to be called Slovenes though.

It is interesting that the area of Mikulov in Southern Moravia is part of th Sudety. I thought Moravian Croats lived there (and around Břeclav - Charvatská Nová Ves, Poštorna etc).
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Oh, BREN, I sure know BREN.

The video is from val Resia in Italy (Rezija). They speak the weirdest form of Slovene, they don't even call our language Slovene but "tabuški" because you can come to Rezija from Slovenia only from Bovec. They don't like to be called Slovenes though.

It is interesting that the area of Mikulov in Southern Moravia is part of th Sudety. I thought Moravian Croats lived there (and around Břeclav - Charvatská Nová Ves, Poštorna etc).
Wow. Yes, villages around Mikulov. Your knowledge is great. The Croats got to Czech in 16-17. centuries when they ran away from Turks but they were nearly assimilated here.
There are other minorities who came in various periods of history. Up to 1/3 of population were Germans. Wallachians (in Moravia) are from Romania. Some theory says that Chodes (western Czech) are originally from Poland, many Poles live in Czech Silesia.
Many Italians also came during late medieval and renaissance times to Czech. Many French wounded soldiers and prisoners decided to stay here during Napoleonic wars. We have a significant Ukrainian, Russian and Vietnamese minority and many of Slovaks who are often not seen as foreigners. Many Greeks came during their civil war. We have also Hungarians and Bulgarians. Prague had for 1000 years a significant Jewish minority. Of course we have also gypsies.
Czech and Moravia were asylum during German reformation wars, Turkish wars, after bolshevik revolution in Russia as well at time of nazi rising to power so many refugees came those times.
Next EU nations are going to come soon .
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Wow. Yes, villages around Mikulov. Your knowledge is great. The Croats got to Czech in 16-17. centuries when they ran away from Turks but they were nearly assimilated here.
There are other minorities who came in various periods of history. Up to 1/3 of population were Germans. Wallachians (in Moravia) are from Romania. Some theory says that Chodes (western Czech) are originally from Poland, many Poles live in Czech Silesia.
Many Italians also came during late medieval and renaissance times to Czech. Many French wounded soldiers and prisoners decided to stay here during Napoleonic wars. We have a significant Ukrainian, Russian and Vietnamese minority and many of Slovaks who are often not seen as foreigners. Many Greeks came during their civil war. We have also Hungarians and Bulgarians. Prague had for 1000 years a significant Jewish minority. Of course we have also gypsies.
Czech and Moravia were asylum during German reformation wars, Turkish wars, after bolshevik revolution in Russia as well at time of nazi rising to power so many refugees came those times.
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Thanks, that's what you get when you watch verbuňky, dechova a cimbalova muzika in your spare time for the past couple of years.

I find it interesting, it's been quite similar here as well. Already upon our arrival we weren't homogenous, among Carantanians you had elements of Croats, Doudlebes, a refugee party of Bolghars. Then came Germans, who asimilated more than half of us, some settled among us in the south as well. In coastal towns you had romance people, later becoming Italians. In times of Turkish raids (those "Turks" were often fellow Balkan Slavs) Vlachs and Uskoki settled in White Carniola, also in Eastern Styria, but there they got fully slovenised. In towns you had numerous Germans and Italians. In the 18th century many Czech masters came here, known for their glass workshops. Napoleon's Illyrian provinces left behind a few Frenchmen. Yugoslavia gave us people from all of its reublics, there's also a small Italian and Hungarian minority. Nowadays I see a trend of Russians and Ukrainians moving here.
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Thanks, that's what you get when you watch verbuňky, dechova a cimbalova muzika in your spare time for the past couple of years.

I find it interesting, it's been quite similar here as well. Already upon our arrival we weren't homogenous, among Carantanians you had elements of Croats, Doudlebes....
I had no idea of benefits of dechovka .
Amazing...Doudlebes....we have also tribe (not sure) with the same name. Our Doudlebes inhabited southern Czech and they ran away from Avars in Pannonia.
Our ealry history is bit fuzzy so there are various theories of Czech land division. Some historians believed the ares were divided by thribes or ethnicums who formed Czech nation later but newer ideas say that division was based on locality with a local chieftains. Afterall Premyslid Czechs won the race for power.
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