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Old October 17th, 2016, 05:28 AM   #1

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Sources for learning about Slavic history


Hi,
I want to learn more about the history of Slavic people, mainly Slovak, but it can be also about others and ancient history such as Great Moravia or even older history - Slavic mythology, Gods, pre-Christian beliefs and culture.

It's difficult to find sources, I don't know where to look for them. There are only a few popular books available at local bookstores.
Any suggestions?
I can read in English, Slovak, Czech and Serbian/Croatian. Maybe I could read in Russian, too, but I've only had it for two years at school so I guess I'd be able to understand just some easy popular text.

Thank you!
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Old October 17th, 2016, 06:05 AM   #2

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Ahoj, vitaj na Historume!

What are you particulary interested in - primary sources or books written by more modern historians?
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Old October 17th, 2016, 06:39 AM   #3

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Ahoj, aké milé tu stretnúť krajana :-)

I'm interested in more modern historians. Mostly introductory/popular level because I didn't pay attention at school and my knowledge is shallow :-)
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Ahoj, aké milé tu stretnúť krajana :-)

I'm interested in more modern historians. Mostly introductory/popular level because I didn't pay attention at school and my knowledge is shallow :-)
Obavam sa, že to neni pravda. Ja jsem Slovinec, ne Slovak.
Exuse my poor Slovak, Czech or whatever it is I'm trying to write ...

Anyway, we have a couple of Czech members here, they might help you with some sources about Great Moravia and similar. It just takes a while for people to notice a thread, so patience.

I have a couple of books that might interest you, but since I'm in college I won't get home before the weekend to check their titles, authors etc.

If you're interested in ww2 in Yugoslavia, Pekel 1941 ("Hell 1941") is a good book, by Miloš Mikeln. It is in Slovenian though.

Here's a book about the history of the Slovenes, again in Slovenian though. It has a few chapters that may interest you - about the Slavic Urheimat, King Samo, St Cyril and Metod, the arrival of the Hungarians, the rule of the Přemyslids. If you combine your knowledge of all Slavic languages you might be able to understand quite a bit, I don't know. Slovenian is a weird language ... If you decide to try, here's the link:
Zgodovina slovenskega naroda



I'm sure other members here will present you a lot of literature that may be interesting for you.
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Hi,
I want to learn more about the history of Slavic people, mainly Slovak, but it can be also about others and ancient history such as Great Moravia or even older history - Slavic mythology, Gods, pre-Christian beliefs and culture.

It's difficult to find sources, I don't know where to look for them. There are only a few popular books available at local bookstores.
Any suggestions?
I can read in English, Slovak, Czech and Serbian/Croatian. Maybe I could read in Russian, too, but I've only had it for two years at school so I guess I'd be able to understand just some easy popular text.

Thank you!
Welcome to the forum. You have a wonderful name.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 08:58 AM   #6

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Obavam sa, že to neni pravda. Ja jsem Slovinec, ne Slovak.
Exuse my poor Slovak, Czech or whatever it is I'm trying to write ...

Anyway, we have a couple of Czech members here, they might help you with some sources about Great Moravia and similar. It just takes a while for people to notice a thread, so patience.

I have a couple of books that might interest you, but since I'm in college I won't get home before the weekend to check their titles, authors etc.

If you're interested in ww2 in Yugoslavia, Pekel 1941 ("Hell 1941") is a good book, by Miloš Mikeln. It is in Slovenian though.

Here's a book about the history of the Slovenes, again in Slovenian though. It has a few chapters that may interest you - about the Slavic Urheimat, King Samo, St Cyril and Metod, the arrival of the Hungarians, the rule of the Přemyslids. If you combine your knowledge of all Slavic languages you might be able to understand quite a bit, I don't know. Slovenian is a weird language ... If you decide to try, here's the link:
Zgodovina slovenskega naroda



I'm sure other members here will present you a lot of literature that may be interesting for you.
Thank you! In fact, I'm 25% Slovene because my grandfather was from Trnovo near Ljubljana . I looked at the book in the link and while I can't understand 100%, I think I'll be able to understand general meaning. Nice of you I'll see if I can convert and copy it into my e-reader somehow...

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Exuse my poor Slovak, Czech or whatever it is I'm trying to write ...
Something in the middle Czechoslovak maybe . But it is definitely understanable very well.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 12:41 PM   #8

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Hi,
I want to learn more about the history of Slavic people, mainly Slovak, but it can be also about others and ancient history such as Great Moravia or even older history - Slavic mythology, Gods, pre-Christian beliefs and culture.

It's difficult to find sources, I don't know where to look for them. There are only a few popular books available at local bookstores.
Any suggestions?
I can read in English, Slovak, Czech and Serbian/Croatian. Maybe I could read in Russian, too, but I've only had it for two years at school so I guess I'd be able to understand just some easy popular text.

Thank you!
You can take a look at these books focusing on early history of Czechs.

Třeštík:
Počátky Přemyslovců: Vstup Čechů do dějin (510–935).
Vznik Velké Moravy: Moravané, Čechové a střední Evropa v letech 781–871.

Měřínský
České země od příchodu Slovanů po Velkou Moravu I+II
The first book is focused on times before Great Moravia, second book focuses on GM.

Complex history of Czechs:
Velké dějiny zemí Koruny české.

You say you are interested in mythology.
Commented myths of Czechs: Mýty kmene Čechů (7.-10. století). Tři studie ke starým pověstem českým od Třeštíka.

The list could be so long but this start is bit huge

It depends how deeply you want to study. You can also look at Učebnice dějepisu pro gymnázia od autorů: Čornej, Čornejová a Parkan to get a basic overview.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #9

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You can take a look at these books focusing on early history of Czechs.

Třeštík:
Počátky Přemyslovců: Vstup Čechů do dějin (510–935).
Vznik Velké Moravy: Moravané, Čechové a střední Evropa v letech 781–871.

Měřínský
České země od příchodu Slovanů po Velkou Moravu I+II
The first book is focused on times before Great Moravia, second book focuses on GM.

Complex history of Czechs:
Velké dějiny zemí Koruny české.

You say you are interested in mythology.
Commented myths of Czechs: Mýty kmene Čechů (7.-10. století). Tři studie ke starým pověstem českým od Třeštíka.

The list could be so long but this start is bit huge

It depends how deeply you want to study. You can also look at Učebnice dějepisu pro gymnázia od autorů: Čornej, Čornejová a Parkan to get a basic overview.
These sound great! I'll see where I can order them! Now I'm reading about Slovak-Hungarian relationships and some ordered legends should come today or tomorrow and then I'll continue with your recommendations
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Old October 19th, 2016, 03:09 AM   #10

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Thank you! In fact, I'm 25% Slovene because my grandfather was from Trnovo near Ljubljana . I looked at the book in the link and while I can't understand 100%, I think I'll be able to understand general meaning. Nice of you I'll see if I can convert and copy it into my e-reader somehow...
You're kidding, my college flat is in Trnovo, I live there during the week. It used to be a separate village, but by now it is fully a part of Ljubljana, no more than 15 min from the very city center on foot.

If you'll have any problems with the text you can ask me. The language is a bit archaic, using words that are closer to Serbian and aren't used today anymore. Perhaps that makes it more understandable.


@Excalibur: that's due to the Southern Moravian (Slovácko) music I listen. Lots of dialect in the songs, so I pick up dialectual forms instead of standard forms. "Ja su" instead of "jsem" etc.
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